I get you.

But honestly come I’m kind of liking the vibe here and it’s not just a meme feed. More often than not you can have a real conversation with somebody you disagree with, you concied, they concied, learn a little bit about each other, follow a couple people maybe block a few assholes.

The first few redis exoduses filled the place with the people with the lowest tolerance for bullshit. Every time Reddit has a new Exodus, We get topped off with the next level of people that just want to watch everyone be pissed off.

And then different servers even have different options so you’re not stuck with one person’s view of what things look like.

I was kind of upset that Kbin went under, lots of cool features, same data.

To be entirely honest if anybody like that comes here and bounces off that’s great.

Yeah, people actively surrounding one water cooler aren’t likely to go across the room to a different water cooler with no one there to start a new community. There’s a lot of mental and social effort required there.

In the news in tech communities the moderation was becoming oppressive. If someone pisses all over the water cooler, then people are a lot more likely to change it up.

We see the same thing in the niche video gaming communities.

Which of the seven primary UX design principles would you like to complain about?

Give me some details here.

because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

No, it isn’t.

The UX is fine. It’s clean, fast, and functional. Anyone who is too fancy for “old Reddit” can stay on new Reddit with the bots and Xers. They’d just come over and be nothing but insufferable anyway.
o.o

Multiple front ends and themes are available. In the end, we’re here for the conversation, not fancy graphics, sounds, or CSS trash.

If someone can’t get past picking a server or simple graphics, the likelyhood of them being any benefit here is minimal. The more is not always the merrier.

I mean, if they drop a hot fucking meme like this every time I wouldn’t even be mad.

Yeah, I can tell; I’ve had a sharp uptick in people picking arguments and then sticking their fingers in their ears.

pshaw, NixOS, Arch is too easy.

Building an app like this for 100 people, sure. Making something handle smooth, affordable video delivery at scale. That’s a spicy meatball.

The front-end is a mess for testing but doable. Then if you do live, you’ve got proxies and stream copies.

I host stuff at great scale, it’s a different beast.

I’m not a content creator, but I recently went on vacation and put my best stuff up.

Without the algo, everything just gets lost to time. When I put a few things up, they faired well, but once they were out of the front seat, ( a day or so ) they were never seen again.

Where I post a couple nice things on bluesky, I get reverberations for days.

Bluesky doesnt have an algorithm for its discover feed

For not having one, my Discover feed was pretty dead on. Maybe just luck or maybe it was the right time for the right facebook influx.

edit: they might have one https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueskySocial/comments/1g9zzca/bluesky_dosent_have_an_algorithm_so_what_is_the/

Lemmy is an outlier

Lemmy is damn close to Reddit’s mental design, but instead of 27 different subs for news on one place, there are 2-3 different places that have a news sub. news@here and news@there isn’t hard to grasp, I think the platform works remarkably well.

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn’t?

Yes. The interface is good and familiar. The majority of the traffic is on one namespace where discoverability is good. Because of the nature of the medium, getting started with no algorithm is a lot easier to stomach than just looking at what your local people have to say.

This is not to bash Mastodon, but they need that algo, which is why Bluesky is hoovering up users. Also, their UI, depending on the server is more tweetdeckish, which might scare off a lot of casuals.

edit: I’ve been informed the bsky has no algo, so somehow they seem to be getting better results in discover, perhaps single name space or perhaps they have something behind the hood.

Also, to start with, all the journalists FLOODED info, Mastodon, without any algo; you just got a hundred wordsmiths screaming past each other and they all immediately followed each other, so you couldn’t just find people like Jeff Jarvis, you got to see everyone he had a professional experience of which is WAY more than anyone is prepared to read :)

I wish them the best of luck. Back when they were well funded, they had a hard time staying up without servers. I hope they sort it out.

I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.

The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.

You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.

Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.

Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that’s a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)

Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.

People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.

Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.

Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.

The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself

There was a github request to integrate lbry into fedi, but it never gained any traction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png

So, no, they’re not in the fediverse and don’t interconnect with the other players.

Here are the current places that play well together.

Odysee had a shot at making it bigger than it was, but it’s really drowning in bad (moral and qualty) content. They never really recovered from their crypto scheme, once the SEC started looking into them, they got screwed. I’m down with the idea of paying creators in crypto, but they were selling it as a security.

I’m using Voyager. It’s amazing that we have choices.

Reddit and Facebook’s interfaces aren’t any better than anything we’re using, and they’re full of sponsored content.