China challenge US WHAT??, Half of used products and technology in the US are made in China, even the MAGA hats.
Yeah, it’s pretty clear that China is far ahead in every technology that matters because they make all of it.
They are behind on lithography machines. LogicFolding seems like one way to overcome that, but for now HiSilicon is 18-24 months behind Apple and Qualcomm in performance. I will believe the promised gains when they are delivered, and I’m hopeful that a Chinese company figures out how to make EUVs. In a sense being only behind by 18-24 months is a win for Huawei and China, Biden’s goal was to keep Huawei at 2014 levels. In another Huawei phones and tablets still lose on performance in comparisons and they aren’t cheap. Xiaomi has also contracted TSMC to make its Xring chip, not SMIC. Of course cutting edge nodes are not necessary for all applications, certainly not for military applications which is the alleged reason behind the US ban. My laptop uses NVMe by YMTC and I wouldn’t tell the difference or care if it were 14nm or 28 nm or otherwise.
I expect the gap is going to get closed faster than most people think. The rate of technological progress in China is accelerating, and doing things the second time around is always easier as well because you know the general direction to move in which removes a lot of false starts you have when doing something completely new. Also worth noting that while mainland will catch up to what TSMC is doing in a few years, there’s no skill in the west to replicate that. So, if KMT gets in power and Taiwan ends up being repatriated, the west will lose their ability to make high end chips.
It is good that I have the option to use Chinese alternatives to overpriced US made products.
What fucking dominance?
CPU and GPU logic, that’s it. Possibly Semiconductor fabrication (Intel 14A is actually shaping up well after a few years of being well behind TSMC) but they rely heavily on ASML.
Couldn’t think of a single other thing USA actually makes the best of.
Medicine? Nope.
Food - c’mon lets be serious…
Cars - again lets be serious…
Tools - nope.
Weapons - nope. US now buys Euro designs for guns then makes them so poorly they don’t work.
Satellites - nope.
Entertainment - nope.
They can’t even get bread and circuses right.
no need ! , U.S is challenging its own dominance by being stupid
We’ve learned the stupid is abundant
A great example of this is the US sanctioning Chinese companies forcing them to make a better version of corning/gorilla glass known as Kunlun.
Where they haven’t made many inroads is software. Unfortunately, US tech companies still dominate the world. Hoping this will end sooner than later.
Chinese phones are actually fairly popular outside western countries, and they have Chinese app ecosystem on them.
Chinese manufacturers such as Honor and Xiaomi have Chinese and Global versions of their handsets. My Honor Magic V5 runs Android based MagicOS and has access to Google Play and other Google services. Huawei phones sold here still come with AOSP? based EMUI, I’m not positive on whether it has Google Play and other Google services or not*, but you can install them using packages such as MicroG.
* Wikipedia says not:
On 14 July 2026, Huawei unveiled EMUI 16 alongside the Pura 90s Pro and Pura 90s Pro Max at a global launch event in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.[43][44][45] Based on Android 16, it launched in international markets without Google Mobile Services.[46][47][48]
Sorry, I meant for big businesses like Microsoft and then the major cloud providers. I do hope the world wises up and develops their own solutions in the future. US companies are not to be trusted.
Alibaba is basically an alternative to AWS nowadays, but Chinese companies really do need to close the gap on the desktop and create alternatives for productivity apps. I’m hoping once China starts getting serious about it, they’ll build on existing open source solutions and we’ll get a boost for the Linux ecosystem overall.
Fastfood chains?
Oporto > Nandos > local pizza shops > everything else > american burgers > dominos (pizza hut is pizza shut)
gas guzzlers?
I think Germany and Italy might be able to beat them there…
If you changed it to ‘Ugly gas guzzlers that are banned in EU for pedestrian safety reasons’ then they’re in with a chance (but Japan will still beat them with the Delica D5)
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Surprisingly revealing article.
As if they know it’s lost.
