You questioned if voting Democrat will make things better
I gave examples of how it already has
You pivoted and said āI never said donāt vote for themā. Which I never accused you of saying
Then I pointed that out and now youāre confused and think Iām a bot.
If you agree voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans, what is the point of anything youāre saying? It definitely isnāt to convince more people that voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans.
Because youāre throwing around non-sequiturs. I never said anything about how I thought anyone should vote. You, me or anyone else. I was pretty clear that voting dem would at least stop the mayhem from getting worse. What I said was they will likely not be able to make anything better. And they wonāt.
Even their signature accomplishment in the last 20 years, which you are pointing to was a fragment of what they set out to do. They watered down their own bill for zero reason, because it won no support from the Republicans and was almost immediately undermined and rapidly demolished. They have policy statements even their own caucus doesnāt universally agree to, and likely canāt pass a bill on even if they win both chambers in a landslide. While individuals within the party may stand for some things, the party as a whole doesnāt stand for anything. Except ānot thisā which, is not nothing, but itās not going to fix anything.
If people want things to get better voting is not going to get you there. Organizing and activism are the only ways to even begin to rebuild, because trusting Congress to accomplish anything is an exercise in futility. Every incentive and system and procedure is working against the kind of action necessary to change course. If people donāt do the work themselves to fix things, and expect voting to even begin to make things better, they are going to be deeply disappointed. At the end of the day, Congress exists to solicit funds from donors. Not to make life better for people.
Buddy no one has argued against activism or organizing here. Youāre acting like I donāt understand that. This whole time Iāve just been confused why you felt to make the point at all, because no one said anything about only voting and calling it good. Some people do behave that way, but no one youāre talking to in this thread is arguing against you on that point. Youāre being incessant about making a point no one is disagreeing with.
You questioned if voting Democrat will make things better
I gave examples of how it already has
You pivoted and said āI never said donāt vote for themā. Which I never accused you of saying
Then I pointed that out and now youāre confused and think Iām a bot.
If you agree voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans, what is the point of anything youāre saying? It definitely isnāt to convince more people that voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans.
Are you a bot?
Because youāre throwing around non-sequiturs. I never said anything about how I thought anyone should vote. You, me or anyone else. I was pretty clear that voting dem would at least stop the mayhem from getting worse. What I said was they will likely not be able to make anything better. And they wonāt.
Even their signature accomplishment in the last 20 years, which you are pointing to was a fragment of what they set out to do. They watered down their own bill for zero reason, because it won no support from the Republicans and was almost immediately undermined and rapidly demolished. They have policy statements even their own caucus doesnāt universally agree to, and likely canāt pass a bill on even if they win both chambers in a landslide. While individuals within the party may stand for some things, the party as a whole doesnāt stand for anything. Except ānot thisā which, is not nothing, but itās not going to fix anything.
If people want things to get better voting is not going to get you there. Organizing and activism are the only ways to even begin to rebuild, because trusting Congress to accomplish anything is an exercise in futility. Every incentive and system and procedure is working against the kind of action necessary to change course. If people donāt do the work themselves to fix things, and expect voting to even begin to make things better, they are going to be deeply disappointed. At the end of the day, Congress exists to solicit funds from donors. Not to make life better for people.
Buddy no one has argued against activism or organizing here. Youāre acting like I donāt understand that. This whole time Iāve just been confused why you felt to make the point at all, because no one said anything about only voting and calling it good. Some people do behave that way, but no one youāre talking to in this thread is arguing against you on that point. Youāre being incessant about making a point no one is disagreeing with.
You deserve the representation you have.
So do all Americans.