Youāve even got a problem with me assuming you knew one of the biggest comedians of all time?
I donāt think he can be one of the biggest comedians of all time if he is not known except in some specific region. I would know about him if he was as famous as it seems in your social bubble.
You still never gave a single reason that this joke wouldāve hurt anyone, intentionally or not.
For accidentally omitting this, I am of course very sorry. So, here comes a reason:
The joke makes it look like thereās something funny or wrong with a womanās face looking male to a lesser or bigger extent.
Dave Chappelle is world famous, no doubt about that. Absolutely nothing to do with my āsocial bubbleā and given that America invented standup comedy (look it up) and itās emulated around the globe, nothing much to do with my region either. Iām guessing that even in Finland Dave Chapelle is more known that those people you mentioned. It could be that you donāt know about world famous comedians because youāre humorless?
The joke makes it look like thereās something funny or wrong with a womanās face looking male to a lesser or bigger extent.
You said that. The problem is that you saying something with no actual basis doesnāt make it true, not in the least. People laughing at something doesnāt make it A) cruel/derisive or B) for whatever ridiculous made up reason you want to pull out of your ass.
This was all explained to you repeatedly and besides being just unpleasant, I now see that youāre a troll. Bye.
Ps. No one likes talking to someone who thinks their very unpopular opinion is fact, nor people who come off as 20 yo and think they know everything. Maybe get a sense of humor as well as work on those two things.
Every person lives in a social bubble. You putting your in āhyphensā shows that you are just not aware of living in one. And that means that it has more effect on you than it has on people that are aware of them.
Iām guessing that even in Finland Dave Chapelle is more known that those people you mentioned.
Seriously. No, he is not. The reason is simply that he makes no shows in Finnish and we are tremendeously more able to get the full depth of jokes in Finnish than in English. Your āwhole wordā is just English-speaking countries. It is absolutely possible that the guy is known in England as well, but I donāt think more than 2 % of people in France or Germany or Netherlands or Italy know about him. Because he doesnāt have his shows in the local languages. Because he cannot.
Weāve got enough of very good standup comedians here. Someone in USA might be technically better but so much will be lost in translation that in the end we will be laughing more at our own standup comediansā shows. Because we understand their nuances better. And itās not even only about the language: There are plenty of small cultural aspects in USA that do not exist as such in Finland, and many references to them will be missed or misunderstood.
I like standup comedy a lot, and I would absolutely know if that guy was famous in Finland.
You said that.
Sorry, I assumed you had forgotten.
The problem is that you saying something with no actual basis doesnāt make it true, not in the least.
Well, you saying there is not basis when there is a basis is an argument. But a rather weak one.
People laughing at something doesnāt make it A) cruel/derisive or B) for whatever ridiculous made up reason you want to pull out of your ass.
It can make it, depending on whatās going on in the head of the person laughing. There are many ways to laugh at things. While in many manners you do give me an impression of a moron, in many ways you are not one. There is no reason to assume you are a hillbilly idiot. I do believe you would not laugh at me in a derisive manner if you saw my face. Many others do. And those peopleās reactions to this joke image is what makes me feel afraid, not your reaction. And also not the intent of whoever made the image.
You know that multiple people told you a much more logical reading of the joke than the one you went out of your way to contort it into.
Congratulations, youāve taken a vague feeling of frustration at people who value feeling self righteous over comedyās existence in general, and with the moron/hillbilly comments, the feeling is now that I actively hate you. What a deeply shitty way to be. I donāt believe for one second you like standup comedy btw, because standup comedy necessarily contains jokes that could be twisted into something they arenāt. How do I know? Thatās literally what the concept of humor is. Youāre now blocked. Thanks for making the world a worse place.
Why would they say something clearly meant for you to read if they donāt understand the basics of blocking?
Youāve told readers here that you do not care about comedy and also that you very much want to feel victimized (āwhy do you think I look funnyā gives that away hard). Everyone who disagrees with you is a transphobe, according to you. This attitude undoubtedly has a huge negative impact on you and those who interact with you. Which would be pitiable, exceptā¦
After reading this full exchange, I couldnāt agree with them more about the issue and about you. Blocking you now myself.
Everyone who disagrees with you is a transphobe, according to you
I disagree with this sentiment, mostly. My own experience is of course that almost everyone has at least some level of transphobia, but I donāt think thatās meant here. And most importantly: I do not think TrickDacy is a transphobe ā at least not in any sense that is relevant for this discussion. They have a blind spot where they forget that a joke can be misinterpreted by its viewers, and maybe a little lack of empathy for ignoring that I felt scared by the imageās joke, but it would be unfair calling them a transphobe. Their words did hurt, but not everything that hurts is transphobia.
I donāt think he can be one of the biggest comedians of all time if he is not known except in some specific region. I would know about him if he was as famous as it seems in your social bubble.
For accidentally omitting this, I am of course very sorry. So, here comes a reason:
The joke makes it look like thereās something funny or wrong with a womanās face looking male to a lesser or bigger extent.
Dave Chappelle is world famous, no doubt about that. Absolutely nothing to do with my āsocial bubbleā and given that America invented standup comedy (look it up) and itās emulated around the globe, nothing much to do with my region either. Iām guessing that even in Finland Dave Chapelle is more known that those people you mentioned. It could be that you donāt know about world famous comedians because youāre humorless?
You said that. The problem is that you saying something with no actual basis doesnāt make it true, not in the least. People laughing at something doesnāt make it A) cruel/derisive or B) for whatever ridiculous made up reason you want to pull out of your ass.
This was all explained to you repeatedly and besides being just unpleasant, I now see that youāre a troll. Bye.
Ps. No one likes talking to someone who thinks their very unpopular opinion is fact, nor people who come off as 20 yo and think they know everything. Maybe get a sense of humor as well as work on those two things.
Every person lives in a social bubble. You putting your in āhyphensā shows that you are just not aware of living in one. And that means that it has more effect on you than it has on people that are aware of them.
Seriously. No, he is not. The reason is simply that he makes no shows in Finnish and we are tremendeously more able to get the full depth of jokes in Finnish than in English. Your āwhole wordā is just English-speaking countries. It is absolutely possible that the guy is known in England as well, but I donāt think more than 2 % of people in France or Germany or Netherlands or Italy know about him. Because he doesnāt have his shows in the local languages. Because he cannot.
Weāve got enough of very good standup comedians here. Someone in USA might be technically better but so much will be lost in translation that in the end we will be laughing more at our own standup comediansā shows. Because we understand their nuances better. And itās not even only about the language: There are plenty of small cultural aspects in USA that do not exist as such in Finland, and many references to them will be missed or misunderstood.
I like standup comedy a lot, and I would absolutely know if that guy was famous in Finland.
Sorry, I assumed you had forgotten.
Well, you saying there is not basis when there is a basis is an argument. But a rather weak one.
It can make it, depending on whatās going on in the head of the person laughing. There are many ways to laugh at things. While in many manners you do give me an impression of a moron, in many ways you are not one. There is no reason to assume you are a hillbilly idiot. I do believe you would not laugh at me in a derisive manner if you saw my face. Many others do. And those peopleās reactions to this joke image is what makes me feel afraid, not your reaction. And also not the intent of whoever made the image.
You know that multiple people told you a much more logical reading of the joke than the one you went out of your way to contort it into.
Congratulations, youāve taken a vague feeling of frustration at people who value feeling self righteous over comedyās existence in general, and with the moron/hillbilly comments, the feeling is now that I actively hate you. What a deeply shitty way to be. I donāt believe for one second you like standup comedy btw, because standup comedy necessarily contains jokes that could be twisted into something they arenāt. How do I know? Thatās literally what the concept of humor is. Youāre now blocked. Thanks for making the world a worse place.
The more logical reading is sensible indeed.
That does not mean other readings cannot exist at the same time.
Also, I wonder if they understand that by blockine they donāt really block me from seeing them ā only themself from seeing me.
Why would they say something clearly meant for you to read if they donāt understand the basics of blocking?
Youāve told readers here that you do not care about comedy and also that you very much want to feel victimized (āwhy do you think I look funnyā gives that away hard). Everyone who disagrees with you is a transphobe, according to you. This attitude undoubtedly has a huge negative impact on you and those who interact with you. Which would be pitiable, exceptā¦
After reading this full exchange, I couldnāt agree with them more about the issue and about you. Blocking you now myself.
I disagree with this sentiment, mostly. My own experience is of course that almost everyone has at least some level of transphobia, but I donāt think thatās meant here. And most importantly: I do not think TrickDacy is a transphobe ā at least not in any sense that is relevant for this discussion. They have a blind spot where they forget that a joke can be misinterpreted by its viewers, and maybe a little lack of empathy for ignoring that I felt scared by the imageās joke, but it would be unfair calling them a transphobe. Their words did hurt, but not everything that hurts is transphobia.