When they say āmartial lawā what they mean is a coup. Thatās what it would entail. They are demanding that our republic be dissolved and a fascist dictatorship be put in its place. Donāt let conservatives slide on this. They are enemies of democracy and need to be called out for it.
What a dumbass system where the president appoints people who are supposed to hold him accountable. Throw out the entire constitution, itās garbage.
You know _something _ is going to happen. Theyāre not going to accept political defeat.
Donāt forget:
We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be."
We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be."
Which translates to āDonāt you fucking dare get in our way, or weāll make the streets run red in a river of bloodā
Iām pretty sure Kevin Roberts is gonna squeal like a pigā¦
God please let it be bloody. Dear lord in heaven let this be bloody.
If we donāt make it bloody, they win. Historically the best way to get what you want is violence. Like it or not, balls in our court
Thatās real Shady
- ICE at polling places
- Lost ballot boxes
- Elon
- Postal shenanigans
- Republicans lose house and senate convincingly
- Lots of legal challenges
- House and Senate just donāt acknowledge newly elected reps, delay, et cetera
- Lots of legal challenges that proceed very slowly
- Impeachment
- Martial law
- Lots more legal challenges
- Nothing changes.
I wish you luck Americans but as a nation youāve demonstrated that youāre unable to respond to this challenge.
Lol, the house and Senate donāt get to refuse anything. The states send their representatives to Congress and they became the new Congress in January. This isnāt a special election.
Theyāre going to win control of at least the house, and from then on Trump will be a lame duck president. Any play at martial law wonāt work and will just make Trump look like even more of a pathetic joke, they would need many millions of people in the army to actually enforce it and they donāt have anywhere near that.
So tired of the uneducated doomer shit on this site.
Oh also, from us āuneducated doomersā
Another random rule that is ādiscoveredā that only non MAGAs have to follow. Maybe educate yourself.
House Speaker Mike Johnson has the unilateral legal authority to fire the Clerk of the House and appoint an acting replacement before the 120th Congress convenes on January 3, 2027. Retired federal judge J. Michael Luttig and other legal analysts warn that Johnson could install a partisan loyalist who refuses to place certified Democratic members-elect on the official roll, thereby preventing them from voting for Speaker and effectively blocking a Democratic majority.
Itās true. Since being in he hasnāt been able to do ANYTHING without passing bills through Congressā¦
The end of his first term shows what will happen (except now it will be worse since he is on tilt)
Even with Democrats controlling the House, Donald Trump retained several significant unilateral powers in the second half of his first term (2019ā2021):
Executive orders and memoranda ā He directed the executive branch without congressional approval. In fact, he increased his use of executive orders and unpublished memoranda once facing a hostile House, particularly on immigration policy. Appointments ā He nominated federal judges, Supreme Court justices, and executive-branch officials (subject to Senate confirmation, which Republicans controlled). Most notably, he nominated Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court in 2020. Pardons ā The pardon power is entirely independent of Congress and cannot be overridden. Foreign policy and military command ā He could make executive agreements (no Senate ratification needed), direct military operations, and set diplomatic policy. Veto ā He will still block legislation Enforcement discretion ā He will direct how federal agencies prioritize and implement existing laws.
We know.
The only good news is that a lot of us have thought this was happening before now. Su they might not pull it off this time either.
And some progressive candidates are making progress.
Itās very bleak. But it has been bleak for longer than much of the world noticed. So far weāve survived albeit not without many losses and setbacks.
Their lack of ability and understanding are their only redeeming qualities.
But this is all just to set up for 2028, and a dry run. Not for the president of course he doesnāt care about anything outside himself, but for the party, it is.
If they control one house of congress, they can refuse to recognize results and fillibuster it until it gets thrown to the States, where every state gets one vote, and they control over 30 of them.
That is one of many cheats they are planning, last resort kind of one. I suspect they are going to try and electronically cheat at vote totals, given that they got the inner workings of all the voting machines in swing states from pillow infomercial doucheās group he set up, getting hard drives from states like michigan, arizona, colorodo, and everywhere else. It all varies by state, but I suspect theyāve been cheating as such since 2016 when the poll numbers were so offset from the actual results.
Iād like to see some exit polling to confirm because that is traditionally the most accurate.
Iām still worried that the space Nazi fucked with numbers in 2024 and that nobody in charge wants to face the truth of what that means for our elections.
Hopefully this would end like in South Korea
For sure with all the other times people have stopped him from doing something illegal.
WHEN he does this, Kash Patel and the FBI wonāt do anything but HELP HIM. WHEN he does this, TOM Homan and the DHS wonāt do anything but HELP HIM. WHEN he does this, Todd Blanche and the DOJ wonāt do anything but HELP HIM. WHEN he does this, Pete Hegseth and the Military wonāt do anything but HELP HIM. WHEN he does this, John Roberts and his SCOTUS wonāt do anything but HELP HIM.
When Democrats get in, if Mike Johnson allows it, they might be able to impeach some of them and then trump will install an āinterimā appointee that will be no different.
Definitely hopefully not like the other Korea. Heh
āwell, I didnāt vote for himā
āboth sides are the sameā
āwhy do you support genocide?ā
āno wars presidentā
āhe knows how to run it like a businessā
āim a fucking moronā
^^^all the above groups are the same
What self reflection do you do when you realize that the opposition party that you shill for STRUGGLES to defeat the most obvious and disgusting populations in our country.
What self reflection do you do when you look back at the last forty years and try to tell someone what they GAINED by voting for your neoliberal (opposition).
What self reflection do you do when you say something so stupid as above and all of the leaders of the party that YOU SHILL FOR havenāt done anything to stop any of this? They donāt even focus on the worst aspects and share the same donors. Is Peter Thiel less evil now that he supports Dems instead of MAGA? So now we support Peter Thiel?
What self reflection do you do when the party you shill for can only come up with a pathetic āfirst 100 day planā a couple weeks before midterms when we should have something like āProject 2028ā that should be a published roadmap of everything that they are going to implement and everyone that they are going to imprison.
Instead, the people you shill for while shitting on the American people, are ācommitted to oversightā and going to ārestore affordable care act tax creditsā
No one should support any of this until the Dems get rid of AIPAC and change leadership.
Everyone always accused me of being an election bot so I will even give some neolibs some credit. Ossof and Tallarico are awesome and know how to speak to MAGA filth and are promising. David Hogg was a good DNC chair that wanted the party to change direction and they got rid of him with a quickness. So without a change in leadership and committee appointments, just prepare to watch more capitalist elbow bumps after their WWE fights while we get NOTHING
So because the choices are evil or useless, you say nothing is preferable which ultimately gives evil the victory.
Dems suck. They have my whole life.
Republicans vary from stupid to straight up evil.
In a choice between āsucksā and āevil,ā I know which I choose every time. In case it isnāt clear to you, I am of the firm stance that something that sucks can be tolerated or even turned into something beneficial in the long run. Evil is just evil and has no place in society.
āDonāt support the demsā hands Republicans everything they want.
I wish the blues had a spine or even a real platform from which to launch anything sensible. At least with Obama he made healthcare his platform, and he was so adamant about it that even the Republicans had to deal with it. Was it a stunning success? No, because it was shot full of holes in congress and crippled before it ever got off the ground by the original McConnell group. Obama was not at all representative of my beliefs in most of the rest of his actions, but the man did his best to effect positive change. Nobody else has done that or anything close since, and prior to that we have to go all the way back to the Depression and public works programs to find anything similarly beneficial to the public. Oh, and Social Security. Which has been gutted by - wait for it - Republicans.
Dems are responsible for allowing the overton window to shift so far right and they are rightfully vilified by actual lefties for it.
Theyāre still better than the alternative.
No. Im saying that we are trapped in an illusion of choice.
True, if you are a slave and always will be, I guess the master that doesnāt hit me would be the better one. But we werenāt always slaves. FDR wasnāt that long ago.
Iām not saying ādo nothingā, YOU are
And the DSA movement is taking that illusion and attempting to effect the change we seek, an inch at a time.
And thatās the only way progress happens right now unless youāre willing to flip the table society rests upon.
But as we have seen it does not work.
People have been preaching incremental voting as long as trickle down economics and it all leads here.
We need to go back to the New Deal era of policies and have a party that stands for those principles
And DSA is the first incremental step back towards that. You form a third party and see how far you get without Citizens United money.
It is a horseshit sandwich, but itās what weāve got right now. Perfect canāt be the enemy of good, especially right now.
Enemy of my enemy and all, nahmean?
Edit: more accurately, the more we can do to frustrate the actual evil, the more time we ultimately have to find the real solution. Again, it isnāt perfect, but its the solution we currently have.
Right. So we donāt have to vote for neoliberals.
What self reflection do you do when you realize that the opposition party that you shill for
I saw zero shilling in their comment.
Attacking the left and critics of your party with all encompassing straw man arguments isnāt shilling?
Hmm
Are you actually shilling for a shill?
SHILLCEPTION
Nah dude, I just really have a thing for calling out bullshit arguments
Here, letās make it easy for everyone. Point out where the shilling occurs:
āwell, I didnāt vote for himā
āboth sides are the sameā
āwhy do you support genocide?ā
āno wars presidentā
āhe knows how to run it like a businessā
āim a fucking moronā
^^^all the above groups are the same
Maybe you donāt actually know what the word means and were just using it wrong? Or is that too charitable?
It would the comment that I responded to, numbnuts
āI see zero shilling hereā
Thatās how we Unite people against Trump! Attack them ššš keep it up pup
Theyāre not here, pal. All flavors of lefites are from vaguely center-left to āit goes that far???ā
But none of the right that Iāve seen.
Yeah IMO the closest we have to conservatives here are the Tankies, which can come across as MAGA at first glance because they both like licking boots.
To the surprise of no one thatās actually been paying attention
Sounds like theyāre planning on declaring war on the population.
Did you not familiarize yourself with Project 2025?
Or watch the news January 6th, 2021?
Not the person you asked, but I couldnāt read it. It was so fucking disturbing I had to stop. Canāt imagine Iām the only one.
There will be martial law if they win. Mark my words.
Lose election? Martial law. Win election? Believe it or not, also martial law.
WORTH IT
What are you, Kwisatz Haderach?
Lmfao #doubt. Americans will continue to do shit and go with their lives like they do now.
And probably call the elected congress a coup attempt
Yes weāve had coup attempt, but what about second coup attempt. -Pippin
I donāt think he knows about second coup attempt. -Merry
-Aragorn: throws a maga hat over the bush
Not an attempt. It was successful. It was called project 2025 and it was readable prior to the election, it is still trackable now.
They couped us. The creator of it even said, āthis is the second American revolution and it will remain bloodless if the left allows it to beā
Hmmm. I wonder why Democrats didnāt speak out against that at all. I wonder why Democrats didnāt have a counter playbook. I wonder why they donāt even have one now, after seeing the long and difficult road ahead. I wonder why they keep funding the secret paramilitary organization with more money than the marines? Weird, right?
If they thought they could get away with it they would have done it by now.
Iām so surprised.
Marsha Marsha Marsha! Are you having a lawful day again?
