Was tempted to call this āDebate 2: Electric Boogalooā but a) A lot of Lemmy wonāt get the OG reference. and 2) āBoogalooā has been co-opted and carries an unfortunate connotation these days.
Also, while itās Trumpās 2nd debate of the season, itās Harrisās firstā¦
Itās being run by ABC News at 9 PM Eastern time, 6 PM Pacific, I see MSNBC starts their coverage TWO HOURS EARLY. Thatās a lot of air time to fill, guys. Good luck!
Live updates, how and when to watch, debate rules, etc. here:
Link to the first debate thread here:
https://lemmy.world/post/16973660
Thatāt it! Thanks for hanging with it everbody!
āDonald trump was fired by 81 million peopleā
Throwing his catch phrase against him!
OMG Trump is off the rails and i absolutely love it!
Moderator: "Just to be clear, you have a plan? "
Trump: āI have concepts of a plan?ā
Harris exceeded high expectations and Trump failed to meet incredibly low expectations.
Let the spin begin, but I saw what I saw.
āiām a gun owner, weāre not taking guns away.ā strongest opinion from a democrat iāve heard on this topic.
āI have the concepts of a plan. Iām not president right now!ā
Holy shit, dude. You biffed that one hard.
Heāll think about it when he gets elected, lol, Jesus.
Two more weeks!
This wins the nightā¦
I like this one.
From where I was sitting, it seemed like Harris beat the ever-loving-shit out him. He took every piece of bait she laid out. Iām not the target though, so I hope undecideds saw what I saw.
āNow she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.ā
ā Former President Donald J. Trump
So here are my thoughts:
- First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
- But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didnāt watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggersā desperate spinning about halfway through.
- The real question is how off-putting heās been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but Iām aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
- On the issues, Harris didnāt really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
- The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trumpās bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.
All in all, I didnāt hate this (other than the sound of Trumpās face hole).
Iām in no way undecided but I think I can see this pretty clearly from both sides.
He presented better than he has previously, and they absolutely claimed he won then. I think the only thing theyāre going to ding them on is not being aggressive enough they really loved it when he was slapping his meat at Hillary. By those standards this was a rather dull showing by him. And you bet they watched it. This is the only debate thatās going to happen theyāre not going to miss that.
And from the Democrat side her anti-Israeli war statements were kind of weak. Weāre not taking away your guns, weāre fracking, But sheās not here to convert more Democrats sheās here to convert moderates and heās just slinging to his base.
He showed up a little nutty instead of roughly senile like heās been showing on tour. I was expecting him to turn into a rabid squirrel.
She presented very well she speaks very well sheās well thought out I hope to God she has this.
Trump kept making his Muppet faces. Lol.
This one? Random screen grab, but it happened so frequentlyā¦
As an undecided, never trumper, Trump looked like an asshat. The oldest trick in the rhetoric books is to attack the person instead of the subject. A sure sign of weakness.
I also feel like the moderators were relatively good at calling out egregious lies and not giving Trump the final word. Usually.
But yeah, Trump apparently controlled the mics, not the moderators.
It was sooo frustrating cause they shut down Harris at one point, like stop letting Trump steam roll you and be consistent on who can speak.
I donāt understand how people think any of their bases will ever change. Itās always about the undecided. I am not mocking you. But itās an obvious thing to me.
Itās not about the undecided. Youād have to have brain worms to be undecided when Trump is an option. Undecided right now is like choosing between a stale pile of dog shit and fast food and justifying it by saying āwell fast food is pretty shittyā.
Itās about getting people to VOTE. People who donāt usually vote need to get out and vote. Thatās it. Thatās whatās going to make the difference. Kamala has to mobilise reluctant voters.
