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Jennings later accused Piker of ācalling for Black voters to be lynchedā and referred to what he called āthe Piker plan of returning our country to lynchings.ā
The original footage came from an October 2024 Twitch broadcast in which Piker was reacting to a debate between two Black political commentators ā one liberal and one conservative. After the conservative participant criticized āwoke DAs,ā Piker sarcastically suggested the commentator wanted to return to an era of racial discrimination and lynchings, according to the complaint.
āHe said, āWe need more Klansmen, OK? Can we go back to a better time when lynchings were happening?āā Piker said during the stream in reaction to the commentatorās argument.
Pikerās attorneys argue that the edited video removed the words āHe said,ā along with his laughter and surrounding commentary, to intentionally make it appear as though Piker was expressing his own beliefs rather than mocking someone elseās.
The dispute emerged amid the Michigan Senate race, where the edited video was circulated to criticize progressive Democratic candidate Abdul El-Sayed over his association with Piker.
Seems like Scott Jennings is going to get nailed to the wall for that, itās pretty indefensible.
Or, I should say, CNN will. Or, I should say, Skydance will. Or, I should say, David Ellison will. Or, I should say, Larry Ellison('s pocketbook) will.
He better settle and itāll cost him
Looks like Piker is getting a new gamer chair and a home gym made entirely out of gold. Ethically sourced, obviously.
What I have learned about this hasan kid Iāve liked.
And Iām feeling strong that my read on him is that under no circumstance is he gonna settle for a sum that is less than actual, meaningful, blood.
Or let Scott chicken out and pay him the full $72mil
Somehow the tax payers will foot the bill š
maybe this will help with Pikers antisemitism payments
good luck mr misogynist
That doesnāt actually sound a ton different than literally any attack ad airing for any candidate at the moment.
If hope both parties lose this one, with a long trial for a one dollar verdict.
Youāre not just stupid, youāre ugly
If hope both parties lose this one
You genuinely have no idea how courts work
I literally explained the scenario where that is possible.
Neither person in this lawsuit is a political candidate. There are different rules for political ads than for what you can just say on TV about a public person.
Piker makes all his income by being popular and from his public image. If what Scott Jennings lied about causes, or may cause, Piker to lose income (by losing stream views because people now think heās a racist), he has a right to sue Jennings for causing that to happen.
You have no idea what youāre talking about.
itās fun when two shit bags get in court with eachother
Hasan has his eye on Ted Cruz next:
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The clip in question is outrageous. Jennings should have his ass handed to him over this.
Never knew who this guy was until the right wing women all wanted to fuck him and it exploded on the internet.
waitā¦ MAGA women actually want to fuck someone other than their biological fathers? wow
Have you heard them talk about trump? Itās crazy how horned up some of them are.
Anyways, during the republican convention they put a pic of Hasan half naked on the jumbo tron. It awakened something in a lot of men and women in that crowd.
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We need way more of this. Republicans are constantly lying and slandering people without consequences.
Excuse my ignorance, but who is Hasan piker?
Heās a leftist political streamer on twitch. He has been at it for many years now, and has recently been the target of many a smear campaign by conservative (and lots of liberal) media, especially after he campaigned with some leftist candidates throughout the United States in the recent primaries. Including Mamdani, and Abdul El-Sayed to name a couple. He comes off a bit like a dude bro, and has said provocative things. But personally I think he has lots of fantastic takes.
Best answer. For everyone else, we get it, he lost the purity contest.
He also abuses his dog with a shock collarā¦
You must be Scott Jennings.
Oh that guy?? Oh hell noā¦
Dont be gullible.
A ānoā wouldāve sufficed
āLeftistā has garnered my attention :P I was wondering how he surpassed the trans community on fox news
āOld enough to count, old enough to mountā - parasocial idol for people who were dropped on their head from a second story window as babies
This quote is from a satirical comedy bit where he is playing a character imitating a specific archetype of a conservative at the time. The video even includes a disclaimer that it is satire, so if you saw a clip of him saying that and just believed it then it shows that you donāt even do the bare minimum of checking context.
Reminder that pedo_troll Ethan Klein sexualized a 17 year old boston bom bing victim, said he wanted to āfck that sweet juvenile vagnaā while openly using the n word, and threatens to āf*ck her in the faceā multiple times while his wife Hila Klein films the whole video
And then he cheated on his wife with a much younger intern.
America deserved Klein/11
I fucking love stumbling across other snarkers in the wild hahahaha
A social democratic Twitch streamer prominent for supporting social democratic or progressive liberal candidates in primaries against more establishment democrats.
Best known for shocking his dog on a livestream.
Dan Saltman recently revealed that he was the originator of that lie and he did it specifically to smear Hasan.
More clips of Destiny and Dan Saltman coming up with the rumor
Thanks for the links!
No problem! Some of these sloptubers are a little cringe in their intros, but the clips and fact finding is pretty legit.
Nah, he has his problems as a reformist but the endless drama and defamation surrounding him is already known.
The root comment didnāt even know who Hasan was tf you mean āalready knownā.
Dude is a dog abuser, and itās relevant.
Things can be known yet not known by every person. For example, itās widely known that heās not a dog abuser and it was fabricated defamation, but you seem to think he is.
No, he is not.
Itās how I heard about him, at least. The dog shocking spawned a lot of memes that spilled out far and wide enough for people who donāt watch e-celebs to see.
Oh so youāre regurgitating unverified rumors to convince people to distrust this guy? Cool, cool.
Kinda funny weāre talking about this on a post about Hasan suing Scott Jennings for defamation.
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hasan doesnāt care about and is never going to fuck you. Stop fighting for him
Is this the only conceivable reason to defend somebody you can think of?
Oh yeah, Iām notoriously so horny for men. Everyone knows me around here for being the most horny for men and only men. I just looooove himbos so much.
Itās certainly not because Iām relatively well versed in politics and follow these issues closely. No way.
yawn. I used to watch him religiously but him not owning up to shocking his dog put a bad taste in my mouth. Havenāt watched him since.
Yep, it was deliberate as a smear campaign.
Itās not a smear campaign when itās just an actual thing that happened.
Hasan hivemind is alive and well I see
Except it isnāt something that happened, though. Hasan has done plenty of things to critique.
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Hasan can do wrong, heās a reformist and in many ways a liberal, rather than a socialist. Him being attacked and slandered as a threat to establishment Democrats is not up for debate.
Evidence has already been linked to you, though itās a real possibility that youāve blocked me so as to maintain your echo chamber.
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Why is he MAGA for pointing an obvious thing that happened?
He isnāt defending trump.
Is criticism only reserved for people you donāt like?
When am I getting grifted? I was there when Kaya whimped, there was no shock collar nor control, you are the one lying to me right now.
Why? And if it is not Hasan, who should I listen to?
What a classic move: ignore my question and move the goal posts even further.
Never even told you not to listen to him.
Everytime you attack someone like Hasan, you are making it harder for us, Mexicans, to raise awareness about the Iron River which is killing over 30,000+ of us every year. Thatās why you hate Hasan, donāt you? You enjoy killing us.
Here is Dan Saltman admitting he started the Kaya shock hoax: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftoversH3/comments/1oz0145/dan_saltman_says_he_got_the_idea_to_falsely/
Thatās the type of people you are cocksucking. Literal nazis. That dude works with Destiny, a dude who is currently facing legal charges for sharing child pornography and revenge porn. He also worked with Ethan Klein, the most pro-Israel motherfucker ever imaginable, Asmongold, someone who openly wished all Palestine got eradicated, and Nick Fuentes, who is openly a Holocaust denier and a nazi who said Jeffrey Epstein was innocent.
Those are your people, dude. Nice. What a fucking loser.
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Heās one of those āPeople you agree with but say it in such an insufferable way you want to disagreeā type of people.
Says politically good things, is very hot, but is also a smug douche.
Dark gods yes! He and Vaush have some (some) pretty good takes but damn, they are insufferable. And Hasan is a bit of a tankie on top of that. He has a pretty shit take on Ukraine.
Vaush
The guy who is self-admittedly into bestiality and loli porn? That guy?
While reacting to a video by Jubilee regarding rape culture, Vaush claimed that Rape Culture exists, that every woman he knows has been sexually assaulted and that reports of sexual assault are not being taken seriously. In the next ten seconds, Sydney Watson talks about her sexual assault story and that the perpetrator was non-white, of a certain religion, and did not get charged due to Cultural Differences. Ian then screamed, āBullshit!ā and accused her of using her trauma to perpetuate the ārapefugeeā narrative. The clip was shared to Twitter by Sydneyās friend Brittany Pettibone, and it went viral. Sydney responded to him in Isaac Butterfieldās response video to him.[19][20]
Ian Kochinski is often accused of being a pedophile. The most common claim rose from a statement that he made about Child Pornography and Child Slavery, where he compared the exploitation of child slavery under capitalism in third-world countries to child pornography, to emphasize the double-standard in where we are easy to condemn child sexual exploitation but turn a blind eye to child labor exploitation, to illustrate how society is far more accepting of child exploitation which is economically beneficial.[12]
In a hypothetical explaining why rule utilitarianism condemns pedophilia, Vaush said: āit is possible for an adult and a child sexual relationship and for it to have positive outcomes on the child as well. That is possible, however (ā¦)ā [13]. Vaush has stated that, if economic inequalities are mended under communism, that it could be justifiable to lower the age of consent to 16, like in the UK. [14] In addition, Vaush has stated that he supports child sexual abuse material in that it is not immoral.[15] On 11 June 2023, Twitter user @Marxist777 make a thread, accusing Vaush being a pedophile. He made a response denying the allegations to this 2 days later.[16]
He was also caught with AI generated CP on his computer [17]
Discord discord messages from 2019 were found of Vaush talking about his desire to have sex with horses.[23] In February of 2024, Vaush accidentally opened his porn folder while on stream. He quickly closed it, but the screenshots were shared on X/Twitter and led to ridicule, due to the content of the porn, which included bestiality involving a horse, as well as 2 pieces of Lolicon pornography, which Vaush had previously denounced.[24]
Urgh, thatās disgusting. Thanks for telling me.
No problem. It can be hard to keep up with how these guys are shitbags. Figured I can use my chronically online status to spread some truth.
Itās a shame that Vaushās more combative style of speaking alienated so much of the left wing, because he does do really good political analysis and also advocates for such organizations like Progressive Victory.
He also advocates for child rape.
For those familiar with Hasan but not Vaush: yes, really, not in the āHasan advocates for 9/11ā sense. This one is real.
Iām curious where you got that from him, considering heās been rather consistent in denouncing that.
As for the ātaxesā folder, he made an entire hour long video talking about his previous controversies, which youāve mentioned in another comment here. Iād recommend giving it a watch, since most of them are timestamped, and I found it rather informative.
Iām not interested in what Vaush says here. What was shown on his own stream when it was revealed he kept loli and beastiality porn was enough for me.
This kind of argument that the age of consent should be lowered and that children arenāt always harmed when adults rape them is disgusting. Destiny, Vaush, all of them who believe this have no place on the left. Or shouldnāt have a place.
Why do you defend these types of views?
combative style of speaking.
All he does is controversy bait. Alienating people on the left isnāt some unfortunate accident, itās intentional. Controversy sells.
When you say something edgy, you get three types of viewers. The first type is neutral people who see an argument or controversy and want to be informed about it. The second type are people who see certain groups get ātriggered,ā and they hate those groups, so they like you because you make people they hate mad. The third group are the haters who hate-watch you, either to more accurately criticize you, or because anger is addictive. Clicks clicks clicks. You donāt get any of those clicks by just saying good reasonsable things that people can agree with.
I have heard all kinds of things about Vaush, but I have never once heard someone talk about any genuine insight that they got from watching him. Even people who like him only ever seem to make vague allusions or talk about how he offends the right people or how thereās actually justifications for what he does and says if you actually watch him, but typically the entire conversation is dominated by all the attention-grabbing bait he puts out rather than any actual insight or analysis.
Streamers and YouTubers do this shit constantly. Whether itās Contrapoints randomly shitting on vegans or Bad Empanada saying trans people just want to feel oppressed or anything Vaush ever says, itās all the same shit. Itās just drama, itās just clickbait. And it displays, in each case, prioritization of building their own audiences over any notion of building a mass movement. It also indicates that their content doesnāt really stand on their own, that they have to use those approaches.
The only leftist streamers or YouTubers Iāve actually learned anything from are ones like Shaun (not very active anymore, though I see he just put out a video) who donāt engage in that shit.
Heās not a particularly well-known figure outside of streaming platforms, but Iāll quote a previous post I wrote to give an attempt at a rounded impression of him. Itās from another thread so thereās some parts of it that might look a bit less relevant to this one, but here it is:
"I think everyone who knows some about him will have an opinion on him - Iād call him divisive. Iāll try to give a relatively neutral rundown - Iām not a historian or researcher on this subject so my knowledge is likely to have holes.
I donāt have time to treat this like a dissertation or adding citations, but Iāll try to present things as neutrally as I can and then you (or anyone else reading) can decide to further research any of the points as you see fit. I am not the final authority on this, just someone whoās dug a little more into this than the average person, and who has no strong feelings for or against the person in question.
He is a political twitch streamer. He ties himself to, and uses the language of, the far left and related candidates. He backs and campaigns for progressive candidates which often raises awareness and donation for them, but the effect seems to be limited - some candidates he backs does well and others do not. He also seems to make plenty of statements that directly contradicts the candidates he backs and campaign for, causing some of them to try to distance themselves from him.
He appears to be well-versed in U.S. electoral politics, media framing, and progressive political arguments, which tracks with his bachelorās degree in political science and communication studies from Rutgers from 2013. Being a streamer he ends up talking about a lot of related subjects, in which he often has to give off-the-cuff opinions and takes, which can often fall well-short of informed or accurate.
He says his end goal is communism. He got his start as a content creator in his uncleās online news channel (The Young Turks), before later splitting off from them and doing his own streaming business. He is from a very affluent family, personally earns a lot of money and he clearly lives an affluent lifestyle. He claims to thrift for designer clothes but when pressed appears to reference outlet stores and similar. Initially he claimed that he doesnāt want his regular thrift stores to get raided by fans, although his fans might be less affluent than him and therefore better served by access to these stores. He has done several very successful charity streams that amassed large amounts of money for good causes. He claims to donate great amounts of money to charities, although the amount of donated money that can be tied to him is very low for his level of wealth, somewhere between 77.000 - 80.000 USD total (0,5-1%) of his estimated wealth, which is 8-14 million USD. While he does not appear to put his money where his mouth is, he does spend some of his time on popular fundraising, which drives a lot of attention to both him and the causes he fund-raise for.
He is often abrasive in his communication, although he will excuse that with passion for the subjects he talk about. He has a large audience that aggressively attacks dissenters or people Hassan expresses dislike for or disagreement with. The harassment from his fan base appears to be significantly above and beyond the norm for the space, and while he comments to the contrary it would be hard to believe that he is unaware of the dynamic between him and his fan base. From what I can tell he has taken no steps towards solving this dynamic beyond disavowing some instances of the harassment, while condoning other instances. He does not appear to have a problem with lying about people or broadcasting random people (even known malicious actors, that he himself states to be malicious) on twitter or twitch if it fits his narrative.
He often breaks the rules of his streaming platform (twitch) but receives special treatment, although I am unsure if that is due to personal popularity or personal relationships with the owner of twitch.
He denies using a shock collar on his dog, but looking at the evidence gathered through old videos, still frames from new videos, and from people who personally interacted with the dog would suggest that to be a lie. I do not know if he still uses a shock collar on his dog since the latest controversy.
As said, feel free to research each of these points, but do be critical of the sources of information and try to just find the actual evidence of what was done or said, rather than peoplesā conclusions. He is divisive so when people give their take they usually either dismiss all the criticism and focus on the things he does well, or dismiss the things he does well and focus on the criticism.
Find all the evidence you can and make up your own mind."
Now, as for this case it looks like Hasan Piker is substantially more correct than Scott Jennings. Snopes did a good write up of the evidence, so Iād recommend looking at that directly, if you care about the issue.
He denies using a shock collar on his dog, but looking at the evidence gathered through old videos, still frames from new videos, and from people who personally interacted with the dog would suggest that to be a lie. I do not know if he still uses a shock collar on his dog since the latest controversy.
Shock collars donāt even work on dogs like Kaya. Their fur is too thick around their neck. Youāve completely fallen for a smear campaign.
That is untrue. If the shock collar has the wrong types of prongs or if it is poorly fitted, it might not reach the skin well enough to make constant contact meaning that at some presses it wouldnāt work very well, but you can get models that will make contact even with thick fur.
You canāt simply dismiss the point without willfully, or otherwise, ignoring how shock collars do and do not work.
Now, based on the video where Hasan Piker gave us the best look at the shock collar, the best match would be the Educator RX-090, as confirmed by their own support team. Feel free to check this link, scrolling down to the section named āWhat the manufacturerās support saysā. The whole article gives a decent rundown of the evidence as well, but itās a longer read.
This particular model might be an āextra poorā choice for Kaya given that Tibetan Mastiffs do tend to have doublecoated furs with a thick, whooly undercoat, but that is a common mistake people make when buying shock collars.
Dan Saltman and Destiny made this up. Stop working for right wing grifters.
I am not particularly well-versed in those guys, so I canāt speak to their findings, but at a cursory glance I donāt see a link between anything Iāve linked and them - I am happy to be corrected if there is something Iāve missed.
However, until you bring any kind of evidence, I will rely on Hitchenās Razor here: āWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidenceā
This is also how I know youāre arguing in bad faith. Destiny, Dan Saltman, and Hasan have extensive history together.
Firstly: I donāt really see how Hasan Piker having history with other streamers is relevant to anything I am writing about?
Can you clarify what youāre getting at, and how Hasan Piker having history with other online personalities invalidates anything I have written, all of which ostensibly does not seem to have anything to do with that?
And secondly: Can you tell me how I am arguing in ābad faithā (i.e. NOT arguing from a genuine examination of the issue), when I tend to give evidence for my case, clearly referencing actual research done, rather than just repeating something Iāve been told (without evidence)? Quick clarification: that last part is not an accusation that you are just repeating something youāve been told - I have no proof of that and I am still hoping that you show anything you have to actually back up your beliefs.
I really donāt mean to be offensive or mean, but I think if have the option to take a moment to re-read some of the messages and look up the definition of ābad faithā arguments you are likely to see that either; A: I have in fact been arguing in good faith, and/or B: You might not have been entirely aware what it means to argue in āBad Faithā.
Stop working for these people.
Dan Saltman is a tech entrepreneur and political podcaster who leverages his platform to advance Zionist interests, targeting pro-Palestine voices and justifying Israelās ongoing settler-colonial project in occupied Palestine.
As founder of TinyChat ā a video chat platform acquired in 2014 after receiving $1.5 million in funding from Sean āDiddyā Combs, amid allegations of its use in predatory behavior ā Saltman built his career in online communications. He now serves as CEO of Redact.dev, a service that deletes usersā digital footprints, which he promotes amid his own involvement in online activism. Saltman co-hosts the āAnything Elseā podcast with Steven Bonnell II (Destiny), where he discusses politics and amplifies pro-Israel views to Western audiences.
Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting āterrorist propagandaā and āHamas recruitment videos.ā In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Pikerās content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israelās occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.
Saltman orchestrated a widespread disinformation campaign against Twitch, accusing the platform of fostering antisemitism by allowing pro-Palestine speech. He mobilized supporters to pressure advertisers, leading to temporary pauses in spending by companies like JPMorgan and AT&T in late 2024. This effort aimed to suppress voices critical of Israelās actions in Gaza, where the confirmed death toll exceeds 40,000 ā a conservative estimate, as Israelās destruction of infrastructure and targeting of journalists has halted accurate counting, with the actual number slaughtered well into the hundreds of thousands. Saltmanās actions align with broader Zionist efforts to weaponize antisemitism accusations against dissent, shielding Israel from scrutiny over its apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and Gaza.
His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destinyās community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltmanās push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for āextreme harassment,ā including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.
This pattern of behavior is not isolated but part of a consistent effort to normalize Israelās settler-colonialism, obscure Palestinian suffering under occupation and genocide, and manufacture public consent for ongoing violence.
Why did you give the link and then copy the whole contents as well? That seems very redundant.
I donāt see how Dan Altman is relevant to any evidence Iāve brought fourth - I didnāt use him as a base for any of my evidence, nor reference them in any claims. Can you tell me how heās relevant to the subject at hand? (Hasan Piker)
Edit: āDanā instead āSamā, partial typo and partial "slip of the tongue"due to the similarity of their names.
Thank you for the links.
For the first link: I donāt see the relevance. It talks about starting a rumor, but I do not reference any rumoring in my posts. I reference try my best to reference things with factual evidence backing it up. Can you help clarify how it is relevant? - I already know Hasan Piker is divisive heās seen as a boogeyman to some and a savior to others, and this just seems to reinforce that, but nothing else.
For the second link: What part was the relevant one? - The part where they briefly talk about the shock collar issue, but doesnāt actually address any evidence for or against? Iāll be honest, I donāt really see the relevance for the rest. It just seems to be a negatively slanted video about Destiny and Sam Altman, which isnāt really relevant to what Hasan has or has not actually done.
On an interesting but separate note, I find the editing of this video interestingly similar to the CNN video that cause Hasan Piker to sue Scott Jennings - I truly feels like the editing of some of the video-clips they use are pushing a very clear narrative, but one that doesnāt seem to be supported by the clips they use, or at least wouldnāt be if the full clip was shown. That said, I am not familiar with the original clips or particularly familiar with the people in question, so I canāt speak to anything other than the video-making style used for the video, which is something I am familiar with, as I have worked with storytelling in editing via my profession.
AHHHH IāM DEAD - You linked to a Medium article as proof?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yep. Feel free to criticize the actual approach the person took or try to disprove it though. I donāt really care where things come from, if the method is good.
Thatās a fucking blog with no sources either. Itās an opinion piece with no meat, no substance, nothing.
Medium is not considered a good source in any space with serious adults talking about real issues.
This āarticleā is as useless as your AI block of text about Hasan with 0 sources.
Thereās literal pictures take from Hasanās own stream, and e-mail conversation with a company representive that recognizes the product. I chased down the image and found it to be verifiable. While I cannot very a private email I could verify the company and the product and match it to the image.
I donāt care where the evidence is, I care that it is verifiable in so far as it can be, and I could verify the majority of that blog post, which is more than youāve been able to give me.
Again, no AI used in any of my work, but feel free to keep riding that ad hominem as far as itāll take you.
Also all this time spent replying to me when you could have been sourcing your claims.
Youāre not a serious person.
So you claim.
You people are so fucking dumb.
There is no way those prongs would hit Kayaās skin. I know that because I have a family member with the exact same brand of collar. Those prongs are pretty short, and you wouldnāt even fucking bother. It is an excellent noisemaker for the dog. You can use it for long-range calling. It makes a loud beep and buzzes really well, and pretty much every dog is going to react to that.
Combine that with the āevidenceā given, anyone that believes he shocked his dog is dumber than a box of nails. Wow, someone here said they looked at stillframes! Motherfuckers do the exact same thing as moon landing denialists and flat earthers do. It is insane to me that a fucking 15 second clip is groundbreaking evidence these fucking mouthbreathers give for a thing that even if it was true, would be relatively fucking minor to them, but goddamn do they fall for the same shit every time.
Thatās quite the angry rant. Iāll try to filter out the personal attacks and focus on the substance.
You can claim that the collar would be a bad fit for Kaya and Iād agree, but the images taken from Hasanās own streams make it hard to claim that it isnāt the Educator RX 090.
You could claim he might be better served with a vibration collar, which is what Hasan changed his story to, but this one is shock capable, and there would be no reason to buy a shock capable collar unless you intend to use the shock capability.
But my claim is that he used a shock collar on his dog, not that he used one that was a good fit for shocking his dog. Thatās moving the goalpost, if not an outright straw man.
I donāt recall hearing a loud beep when it went off, but feel free to bring evidence to the contrary and I can use your standard of evidence to dig further.
You can go on a tirade about evidence but it doesnāt get much more concrete than stills or clips from Hasan Pikerās own streams.
And to clarify: I do not find animal abuse minor, and I certainly think shock collars are animal abuse. But thatās also trying to move the goalpost, once again.
Nah dude. That fucking collar is a vibration collar. It also has shock capabilities, dingdong. You can put in and remove the fucking prongs really easily. I have seen the exact same fucking collar. But if you donāt remove the prongs, you wouldnāt fucking touch the dogs skin with that collar because those prongs were made for smaller dogs, but the vibrations and noise would be fine because those donāt rely on skin contact. The fact that this doesnāt matter to you is evident. It didnāt make a noise in whatever clip you are talking about is because they didnāt use it.
Damn, I am on fucking fire answering these. Whatās your next fucking curveball? āOh yeah, if Iām a paste eater, how come Iām all out of paste?ā Donate money to an animal shelter and tell people to stop going to pet breeders. You would do more for animals that way than whatever the fuck you think youāre doing here.
A collar with vibration and shock is a shock collar. A collar without shock but is a vibration collar.
The representative from the producer of the collar, that image and video evidence match, indicated that the prongs had been improperly removed and the opening taped over, instead of using a padded replacement cover for the underside, which they also sell. Indicating a rush job to hide the shock prongs.
Hasan has also had a guest who commented on the collar being very tight (ācanāt even fit one fingerā was the quote), which would make sense for using a poorly fitted shock collar, which this one would be indeed.
So my claim is that Hasan used a poorly fitting shock collar. Maybe because he bought the wrong one or because he used one he already had, and he had to over tighten it to get it to somewhat work. And that he used a shock collar on his dog.
Hasan also changed his story several times as well. He started by claiming it wasnāt a shock collar, to them later claiming that it was a shock collar but that he had the prongs removed. I believe he changed it further, but those are the most relevant I believe.
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Dan Saltman recently revealed that he was the originator of that lie and he did it specifically to smear Hasan.
More clips of Destiny and Dan Saltman coming up with the rumor
Never once cared, heard, anything Dan Saltman said. I saw it with my own eyes. I saw Piker change his story on this as well. Not exactly a good sign.
I highly encourage you to stop perceiving the world through the lens of a twitch chat and simping for streamers.
If you care about politics, you should care about Dan Saltman.
https://reversecanarymission.org/person/dan-saltman
Dan Saltman is a tech entrepreneur and political podcaster who leverages his platform to advance Zionist interests, targeting pro-Palestine voices and justifying Israelās ongoing settler-colonial project in occupied Palestine.
As founder of TinyChat ā a video chat platform acquired in 2014 after receiving $1.5 million in funding from Sean āDiddyā Combs, amid allegations of its use in predatory behavior ā Saltman built his career in online communications. He now serves as CEO of Redact.dev, a service that deletes usersā digital footprints, which he promotes amid his own involvement in online activism. Saltman co-hosts the āAnything Elseā podcast with Steven Bonnell II (Destiny), where he discusses politics and amplifies pro-Israel views to Western audiences.
Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting āterrorist propagandaā and āHamas recruitment videos.ā In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Pikerās content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israelās occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.
Saltman orchestrated a widespread disinformation campaign against Twitch, accusing the platform of fostering antisemitism by allowing pro-Palestine speech. He mobilized supporters to pressure advertisers, leading to temporary pauses in spending by companies like JPMorgan and AT&T in late 2024. This effort aimed to suppress voices critical of Israelās actions in Gaza, where the confirmed death toll exceeds 40,000 ā a conservative estimate, as Israelās destruction of infrastructure and targeting of journalists has halted accurate counting, with the actual number slaughtered well into the hundreds of thousands. Saltmanās actions align with broader Zionist efforts to weaponize antisemitism accusations against dissent, shielding Israel from scrutiny over its apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and Gaza.
His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destinyās community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltmanās push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for āextreme harassment,ā including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.
This pattern of behavior is not isolated but part of a consistent effort to normalize Israelās settler-colonialism, obscure Palestinian suffering under occupation and genocide, and manufacture public consent for ongoing violence.
Iām not really going to speak to vanity or narcissism - Iām not sure I know where to begin validating that, or what my standard of evidence would have to be for that, especially for someone like Hasan who spends so much of his time in front of a live audience.
The shock collar however does seem very well-documented, or at least as well-documented as it gets without Piker himself coming out and fully admitting to it.
I donāt know why that one is so hard to accept for someone who is a fan of him. I donāt understand why we should only acknowledge the good people do, and not the wrong.
I think because unfortunately this extends beyond fandom and more into the realm of (a) zealotry, (b) fan-craze / simping / lusting, and/or ( c) Astroturfing bot networks intended to amplify support and suppress dissent. People like Piker are useful to certain groups to advance their own agenda. No different than the likes of Charlie Kirk or Tucker Carlosn or Asmongold, just for different people.
If youāre in one of these groups, then ceding any ground whatsoever is a non-starter.
Perhaps thereās an intersection between several of those elements. There certainly seems to be some level of ideological capture going on, and, Iād argue, some cult of personality elements to it as well.
Iāll admit, Iām not as versed in the political aspects of it all. Iām not entirely sure who supports which groups and what exactly each of their stated or unstated goals are, but it seems clear to me that thereās some level of intentional narrative being spun and manipulated, even if I donāt know by who or for what. Itās just too aggressively managed and curated to not be entirely intentional.
Maybe Iāll have to look more into it at some point.
Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson both so seem to have/had people they are/were beholden to, but Iām also certain they mostly do what they do to further their own wealth and influence.
Asmongold Iām only peripherally knowledgeable of, but he just seems like heās bottoms-upped whatever isolationist and xenophobic koolaid he found.
I know he was a game streamer originally but it seems like heās well into far-right political ideology now, is that right?
Shock collars donāt even work on dogs like Kaya.
Then somebody probably shouldāve told Piker that.
Oh you again hahahahaha
Come join the party. Youāre gonna get wiped with facts.
Iām not the one spouting fallacies.
Stating that shock collars donāt work on that breed does not preclude Piker ā fool that he is ā from erroneously using one in a fit of rage. Itās a monumentally terrible argument. Try that fact on for size.
They donāt work because shock collars need to make skin contact and Kayaās fur is incredibly thick around her neck because of the mix of breeds she is.
That you think Hasan is being propped up by the CCP is telling.
Tell me, what breed is Kaya?
And what source are you citing that they do not work 100% of the time?
Very in-depth ā thank you!
No worries. Happy to help. If youāre still interested I encourage you to do your own research and not take my word for it. Just be aware that he is both is both a republican boogeyman, and simultaneously, has a bit of a cult of personality built up around him on the other end of the spectrum, so nuanced takes are hard to come by.
A nepo baby cos playing as a progressive on TV to enrich himself. Thatās his contribution to the world. And dumb people are attracted to him.
As someone who found out about him about a year agoā¦ Yea heās said dumb stuff, but who hasnāt?
From the rest Iāve seen heās constantly pushing leftist candidates and ideas and he seems to be in a space thatās dominated by right wing Nazi dipshits, so having him in there is a good thing.
The whole nepo baby comment I donāt know and donāt give a shit if true, the entire right is funded and bankrolled by Russians and fascists so Iām not going to nit pick.
On the matter of nepotism, his uncle is Cenk Uygur who is the co-creator of The Young Turks (a progressive news show). Hasan acknowledges that he benefited from nepotism to launch his career as a political commentator since he got his start working for The Young Turks with his uncle. Itās not like he hides it or presents himself as āself-madeā or any other bullshit like that, so I donāt really have a problem with it either.
You donāt see the problem with dumb people following a rich person? Do you hear yourself right now?
I do see a problem with dumb people following rich people, which is why Iām a socialist. I donāt see Hasan as a leader, I see him as a comrade. Socialism is not a poverty cult, the rich can be class traitors too and it matters where their money came from and if theyāre honest about it. Hasan also puts his money where his mouth is, donating to campaigns, mobilizing his audience to campaign, funding and fundraising for causes like the PCRF, and delivering aid to and platforming Cubans suffering under US sanctions. Anyone who consistently delivers materially to the working class deserves the benefit of the doubt.
First off, he never helped Cubans. He showed up to clout chase and go on vacation. Secondly, he only donates large amount to arabic causes, probably a racist. He begs for money for causes while wearing D & G, directly propagating the system he claims to want to change. Again he claims this and that but acts like a PoS everytime I seen him. He is a demagogue and I hate how no one sees it.
During the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Piker, in partnership with CARE International, raised over $200,000 for Ukrainian humanitarian aid while playing Elden Ring, with an average of over 70,000 people watching his coverage of the conflict.[64][65][66]
In the aftermath of the 2023 TurkeyāSyria earthquake, Piker organized a fundraiser that was also contributed to and promoted by other streamers and content creators, including Jacksepticeye, Valkyrae, Ludwig Ahgren, and IShowSpeed. As of February 10, the fundraiser had raised over $1,200,000 for charities such as CARE Internationalās Turkish and Syrian branches, as well as two Turkish NGOs: the AKUT Search and Rescue Association and Ahbap, which was founded by Turkish musician Haluk Levent.[67][68][69]
During the Gaza war, Pikerās charity drive on his channel had raised over $1,000,000 as of October 21, 2023, for the Palestine Childrenās Relief Fund, American Near East Refugee Aid, Medical Aid for Palestinians, and the Palestine Red Crescent Society.[70][71]
During a March 2026 livestream, Piker helped raise more than $56,000 for congressional candidate Oliver Larkin.[79] Wired called this an example of content creators using their online influence for direct fundraising.[79]
Wow this is a weird comment, I wonder what other gems this user could have.
Wow. In any case besides the other userās source, hereās more:
Turkey & Syria: https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63953887
Ukraine: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/03/10/twitch-streamers-russia-ukraine-hasan-cnn/
Iāve said dumb shit but Hasan is genuinely a egomaniacal pathological liar and frequently calls for violence both explicitly and in coded language. He is also ridiculously, like insanely slanderous to anyone who looks at him wrong. He fosters a community of people that other creators are terrified of so they walk on eggshells around him.
Youāre an H3H3 fan, you donāt get to talk about fostering communities of people that other creators are terrified of so they walk on eggshells around him.
Ok now I know you are either a troll or shill. Everything you said is just wrong and lies and you wonāt be able to back any of it up becuase there is hours of video of him proving the exact opposite.
The only time Iāve seen him say vile things is when heās making fun of Conservatives and ironically saying the vile shit they actually believe.
IE this entire fucking post and the reason for the lawsuit!!
You must be watching the wrong Hasan Piker, maybe you are watching the right wing version of Hasan Piker? Pasan Hiker perhaps.
So your solution is to support people that are rich? Do you know what a demagogue is? Well Stalin was one and I put money on it this guy is one also.
How does any of that justify Scott Jennings going on national television and slandering the man?
Go ahead and get those talking points from Fox. Iāll wait. Letās hear your psycho argument about why this man deserved to be slandered by Mitch MicConnellās right-hand hatchet man.
Psycho argument? That projectionā¦ Iām just pointing out the valid reasons I donāt like him, and I never did. Yall support nepo babyās that are abusers go ahead, I just have a better grasp on morality then hasan piker.
The topic is āScott Jennings made up a story about Hasan, fabricated evidence, and then presented that false evidence and is now being sued for slanderā
It doesnāt matter how you feel about the victim. It doesnāt matter what other things the victim did. All of that is completely irrelevant. What is relevant is that Scott Jennings made up a story, fabricated evidence, and presented it on tv as fact. Scott should lose his job and this lawsuit, and he can never be allowed to work in journalism again.
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MAGA spotted. People like you benefit and support the Jeffrey Epstein Class. The world would be a much better place without people like you in it.
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I envy you more than you could possibly imagine. Do yourself a favor and just donāt find out.
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Say what you will about the guy, but thereās no better way to get the right-wing trolls to come out of the woodwork than to say his name.
They really do hate him.
Makes sense. Heās likeable, pointing out flaws in the usa and not white(ie has non standard name)
Probably gonna hit 400 by tomorrow
Remember: Every single person you see attacking Hasan by spreading hoaxes that have been debunked already, like the dog-zapping one or him being a ārich socialist. All socialists and communists must have 0 dollars in their nameā are all 100% MAGAs. People who benefit, support and love the Jeffrey Epstein Class.
Every single one of them.
At this point, if you are still someone who disagrees, attacks, loathes or dislikes Hasan, you are a genuine piece of garbage who is only getting millions of innocent people killed in silence. For example, us Mexicans, we are losing 30,000+ people every year thanks to the Iron River Americans (especially Republicans) keep funding with their taxes. Same shit pours down to South America, same shit is done to the Middle East and Africa. There are a lot of dems who are American Exceptionalists and want this violence and control over third-world countries to continue, so they attack Hasan too. They are traitors and murders.
Hasan is the only American influencer that has brought attention to the Iron River the same way he does for Gaza 8 hours every day. These people hate that, because they all love killing innocent people. Every single American Exceptionalist does at this point.
Thatās what Hasan haters are. Absolutely every single one of them, do not waste more time talking to them, they are worthless monsters.
Nah, I donāt like MAGA at all, Iām Canadian.
But I do recognize Hasan is just running a MAGA style grift.
I also recognize youāre unable to accept any criticism of a wealthy grifter the same way that MAGAs defend Trump, another wealthy grifter.
Youāre upset about the declining quality of life. You should be. THinking some rich guy thatās just saying controversial things on social media is going to make your life better? Feeling like itās important to vehemently defend a wealthy social media grifter? Yeah thatās what MAGA is really about.
Youāre just being angry about people not liking orange kool-aid and saying they must like the strawberry kool-aid. Yāall are drinking the kool-aid down there. Which flavour you prefer doesnāt make you any better than the other people drinking the social media kool-aid.
What is the grift? Teaching class consciousness for free? Are you an idiot?
Heās also rich out of donations for doing that for 8hrs everyday. Motherfucker, youād never take someone with 0$ dollars in their name seriously anyway. And comparing a billionaire pedophile like Trump to Hasan is so fucking stupid I donāt even know where to begin.
Spreading class consciousness is what is helping candidates like Zohran and Abdul win, you imbecile. What Hasan is doing is working. You just want people to give up so they do not learn new shit anymore and stay ignorant, because for you, itās easier to exploit dumbass people.
Hasan is one of the only influencers online that bring attention to Gaza and also the Iron River, in my country, Mexico, which is getting 30,000+ innocent people killed by the 200,000+ firearms the USA and you, Canada, pour into our country. You just donāt want Hasan to spread that awareness, because you probably have stocks in those companies that make the bullets and bombs, and youād lose money.
You are the MAGA, the fucking cultist dumb piece of shit who benefits the Jeffrey Class. You donāt even have valid criticisms about Hasan. Which are they? That he made a lot of money? The 9/11 comment? What is it? You got nothing. You are an idiot.
The guy you replied to said this:
Or you couldā¦ vote in the primaries?
The US has a convoluted run-off system that really should be simplified, but you can vote to select which of the two finalists will stand in the general election. Of course it falls apart for MAGA and leftist types (basically the same kind of people) that think if the majority of people voted for someone they donāt like it must be because the system is somehow rigged.
Everyone in my social media bubble thinks the same way so thereās no way people voted for someone whoās not MAGA/communist! The system must be rigged!
They are not a serious person.
There are real economic policies that could improve peopleās lives. Tax the wealthy, break up large corporations, actually implement healthcare.
The wealthy want to distract you from these things because they enjoy not paying taxes, controlling huge corporations, and profiting off of you when your sick.
So they distract you with demagoguery about failed economic systems to keep you ignorant of the policies that will actually work. Guys like Hasan donāt want you to have a better life, they want to profit off of you by selling socialist themed t-shirts at their merch stores.
No socialist movement can succeed without the working class. The working class know how difficult it was for people like them under socialist systems of the past. It is only the university elite that get scammed by guys like Hasan, he does his performances on a set designed to look like a dorm room after all. You have an affinity to Marx, Lenin, Mao, maybe even Stalin if youāre particularly tankie. The Working class have an affinity towards the people that starved, were worked to death on a āfive year planā or people in China right now working a 996 shift. Youāll probably have to do some googling to figure out what a 996 shift is because you care so little about the working class.
Heās not using a dime of the money heās made off of his grift to organize labour, there is zero effort to appeal to the working class in this faux socialist movement. It wouldnāt work anyway because there has been enough contact with people in the working class with people that have immigrated from former socialist countries that they all know the socialist rhetoric is bullshit. Life was worse for the working class under socialism, you hand wave it away as a minor detail, and that makes you toxic to the working class. Only wealthy university kids that havenāt had much contact with the working class buy into the āclass consciousnessā ālate stage capitalismā type rhetoric. The working class knows itās all a lie, anyone whoās talked to anyone from Eastern Europe or Cuba who was working class and not part of the political elite knows whatās up.
Hasan represents a movement for psychopaths that ignore the hardships of the people that were oppressed be the authoritarian regimes you regularly quote.
Teaching class consciousness for free?
Dude. Heās a streamer making millions of his fans. He isnāt doing this for free.
I much rather get my class consciousness from someone less obnoxious and less psychopathic. (And someone who doesnāt shock his own dog)
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Socialism is when poor?
Oh really? I been watching him for 2+ years now, without spending a dime. When am I getting grifted?
And who? And why do you keep spreading that MAGA hoax about his dog too? You are a MAGA?
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Aha, like helping people like Zohran Mandami or Abdul win? Those āpopulist ideasā? So what if people spend on him? He deserves it for the awareness he spreads 8 hours every day. If he was broke, you would still insult him the same, so, who cares about how much money he has? It is not even a lot. Someone like penguinz0 has more than him, double the amount, and he doesnāt do anything positive with it. At least Hasan is tanking a lot of moronic imbeciles like you who donāt know any better.
āSurface level class consciousnessā like rallying for Palestine right after October 7? When people like you didnāt have the balls to do so because you still believed American propaganda about Israel being the good guys? Or the attention he brings to the Iron River, which is costing my country, Mexico, over 30,000+ innocent people every year? Is that why you want him to fail? Because you have stocks in companies that profit off war, like Boeing, General Electric, Daniel Defense, Lockheed Martin, Colt, Glock, etc.? He is fucking with your bag. You hate that, donāt you, you little racist cunt?
Dude, the imbecile who started the dog hoax was Dan Saltman. That dude gives money to people like Ethan Klein, Asmongold, Nick Fuentes. He openly admitted he started that hoax, you want the video?
I am not a tankie. I openly wish Putin gets killed. You are just a moron with no real convictions or values. You are garbage.
You have not answered yet: Who do you recommend we watch? Are you a Destiny fan or something? Are you too shy to mention your āperfect political commentatorā?
so, who cares about how much money he has?
I mean, as a communist one should care, right?
Class consciousness is hopefully not only against a group of people you donāt like, but all rich fat fucks alike.
Surface level class consciousness" like rallying for Palestine right after October 7?
No, like when he travelled to China and praised it like it was heaven and how he regularly continues to do so. China is not a communist country. Itās a one party run capitalist country with some socialist policies in place. Obviously ignoring the uyghurs suffering. He picks and chooses whatās trendy and doesnāt stick to his morals. No self-respecting communist will spend so much money on bourgeoisie pleasures. Heās a Grifter.
Dude, the imbecile who started the dog hoax was Sam Altman
What, lol. No. I saw it. Sam altman didnāt tell me this.
He openly admitted he started that hoax, you want the video?
If itās a YouTube video.
I am not a tankie. I openly wish Putin gets killed.
If thatās the case, I take back what I said. But your uncritical admiration for hasan is still worrying.
You have not answered yet: Who do you recommend we watch? Are you a Destiny fan or something? Are you too shy to mention your āperfect political commentatorā?
I never told you not to listen to him. You can continue to watch him dude. I am not your dad. If you find him enjoyable thatās great. Just donāt blindly believe everything he says, especially if he doesnāt follow what he preaches.
I donāt have a messaih I follow or to recommend to you.
But if you want a direction, Iād highly recommend you to join you local communist party in Mexico and organize get togethers and do critical reading of marxās work. How to apply it in modern age. Or you could plan and take part in marches for rights labors in Mexico.
The 4 day old account is calling other users bots?
Mhm.
Tell me, who are you getting your class consciousness from that is less obnoxious and less psychopathic? You must have recommendations for who to watch instead, right?
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You just want to keep killing 30,000+ innocent Mexicans every year. Palestinians too. Thatās why you want us to stop talking about Hasan. He is the only twitch streamer who brings awareness to the Iron River and Gaza when nobody would.
You are just a fucking murder. You sound exactly like the Mexicans here who support the PRI, the most corrupt political party of all. They too use insults like these, about being parasocial or obsessed with the candidates who can actually bring a difference. You are garbage.
People like you are costing us thousands of innocent people every year. When the fuck are you going to find the āperfect human beingā you so yearn for, eh? You dumb motherfucker. What is next? āVote blue no matter whoā and the āwhoā is Gavin Newsom? You like that shit? Kamala, the corpo shill? Jeffrey or Schumer are your heroes? Those are the people we should trust according to you? Or who?
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Why? You donāt like that I am bringing awareness to problems you thought you had forgotten? Like the Iron River?
It makes it harder for MAGAs and American Exceptionalists, blue or red, to defend their country. It proves that they are worse than terrorists.
I will never stop. This is the least I can do for the family you took away from me. You probably will never understand because you are privileged and profiting off our deaths. You keep killing over 30,000+ Mexicans every year, because that way we stay depressed, weakened, in panic, in fear, under your control, under your below-minimum wages, the cheap hand labor we give you and so on. You donāt want people like Hasan to succeed because he is fucking with that bag.
You enjoy the rest of your day
Yup. MAGA. They all run away like this. They never answer. Their brains short-circuit, they cannot dismantle or argue against any of this.
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Yup. Doesnāt like you. Must be a 100% MAGA despite all the leftist and progressive stuff heās posting. Please get a brain to think for yourself.
āEather you like him or you want to kill thousands.ā You are arguing as bad as fascist populists.
Hi fuck Hasan piker
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I also dislike him, even if I agree with many of his views. Heās an arrogant POS
And so are you, but worse, because you actually do not do shit for the innocent, but tone-police the few voices that do. Not only that, but if you started doing shit, and then you became famous, youād have to deal with an endless amount of harassment, insults, and even death threats everyday. That shit would exhaust you too, and turn you arrogant (or worse) whether you like it or not, because youād be repeating yourself over and over again, youād get mad that you have to explain it so many times, unless you are like ChatGPT; a servile robot with no emotions who is always happy to answer with a smile. I doubt you are that resilient and good, so. Why should we care?
You have an unhealthy obsession bud, your idol gets paid a lot of money for repeating himself. Much better people have it much harder
Who are these much better people on the left?
Who are you listening to other than Hasan right now? Iām honestly curious.
I agree with him on a very very fundamental level. He is the left equivalent of some guy just screaming everything heās sees on fox news or his Facebook group, calls people slurs and just talks without thinking. The only reasons he is were he is is that he has money, there arenāt many prominent more intellectually capable people in the left community in the US, and the bar to being a decent politician in the US is incredibly low.
Agree. Fuck hasan piker. Heās a piece of shit.
Seriously why does anyone give a shit about a twitch streamer?
Because heās providing real political and moral leadership while the āleadershipā internal to the Democratic party are cuckold failures.
Hasan backed candidates have basically wiped the floor throughout both the Democratic primaries and now general elections. As people have recognized the failures of both centrism and bipartisanship, explicitly socialist views expressed through a relatable, non academic, non corporate views have real purchase. Expect them to continue to grow into a household name. You better get comfortable in this new reality.
Hasan backed candidates have basically wiped the floor throughout both the Democratic primaries
Which is one reason dear cumfart (this comment canāt get removed for using a username right?) is so upset and attempting to deflect from a very important slander lawsuit.
Will be amazing to see Jennings either have to do an apology or see how low he goes to try and get out of it
Hasan isnāt doing anything important heās literally just a twitch streamer.
Heās suing Scott Jennings. Thatās pretty important in my book.
Who is Scott Jennings? Another podcaster?
Scott Jennings is an American conservative political strategist, commentator and writer. During the George W. Bush administration, Jennings was appointed special assistant to the president and deputy director of political affairs in February 2006.
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Except maybe for Destiny, who created him.
Youāre giving way too much credit to that sexual extortionist.
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Itās one small part of Hasanās trajectory. Youāre giving too much credit to Destiny.
He actually agrees with you, heās just a twitch streamer who does political commentary and occasional activism when it aligns with his ideology. He would happily stay in his lane. But the democrats and republicans have turned him into a big deal and gone out of their way to slander him.
Did he switch to mostly political stuff now? Last I heard he was a āreactionā streamer that mostly stole others content.
Heās been a political commentator even before he became a streamer. He probably still reacts to content on the account that political commentary largely depends on reacting to interviews, news clips, articles etc. Iām sure he probably does non-political reactions, such as the recent H3H3 implosion, but as with political commentary he adds a lot of commentary ontop the content. There was even a viral clip of casuallyexplained calling out Hasan for constantly pausing videos to add his own commentary.
The idea that he mostly stole content from others is one of the multitude of lies his haters have told over the years. Heās a far cry from the react streamers who consume content in its entirety and add only āuh-uh, yeah, right.ā
All Iāve seen from him is watching a video and offering nothing but the occasional laugh, then rushing to stop it before any self promotion from the creator can play.
He has something like over 20 000 hours streamed. Iām sure youāre going to run into that as well, but if thatās all youāve ever seenā¦ I guess you must be the worlds unluckiest viewer to always find him doing just that.
I mean you can literally open his stream right at this very moment, heās not just sitting there āreactingā like a houseplant. Heās not even watching a video others made.
Thatās your opinion mang thats fine. And just like the failure of the Biden administration to do anything to stop a genocide , you can choose to see or not see whatever you like.
Hasan is a political commentator who reads and responds to the news outloud. And they do it in a way which most people under the age of 40 would do it, in a mocking, casual sometimes cynical view. And people can relate to that; they arenāt just reenforcing establishment views.
Hereās what its going to come down to: Hasan picked the winners. The canddiates they endorsed and supported, they made it through their primaries, and after making it through the primaries, they are winning their elections. They are more ideologically similar to Hasan and most of the people here, than you or other centrist/ rightwing politics. But more importantly, they picked winners, and supported them early when early support makes the difference. That makes them a king maker.
Lemmy hates centrists but weāre a better representation of the majority of the voters.
Howās the genocides doing now?
I know Biden supported Ukraine much more and Iām also thinking there was a reason why that cunt Netanyahu wanted Biden gone and Trump in.
I mean no you are not. Centrism has lost every election where its been tried. You donāt represent anyone. Socialism/ Social Democracy is far more popular with voters.
Howās the genocides doing now?
Its your genocide bruh, you own it, so you tell me.
Itās worked well when the candidates hasnāt been women because America, the democrats and leftists seem to have a big problem with women in power.
Just like how supporting a genocide handed the election to fascists, your blinders say more about you than they do about reality.
I dislike Harris for many, many reasons and being a woman is not one of them.
Kamala lost because of her own ads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpZ2XYEVmZU AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbZ46GffOo
This is why you love her. She was just another fucking corpo shill who would make a lot of money to gun manufacturers. You yourself must have stocks in those companies. You are always defending this shit America does to poor countries like mine. You profit off our deaths, donāt you, you demonic imbecile?
Registered voters are abandoning bOtH pArTiEs, now down to 28% each; independents are up to 44% of voters. Thatās gone up like 5% since Biden was in office, mang
Pew research. You better call them and tell them that you disagree so that they can fix it!
Independents are not centrists. Thatās not how this works. Its not how any of this works.
Lemmy hates centrists but weāre a better representation of the majority of the voters
So Harris is president?
He literally canvases and makes appearances at rallies for the candidates heās supporting. Maybe do more research than none at all next time?
Also you seem to be ignoring the answer to this question you were already given, deliberately i have to imagine. Hasan gets views, gets attention. Views and attention are power, theyāre influence. If Hasan has 100k viewers thatās 100k potential votes for a candidate.
What are you not understanding about that? It seems really straightforward that views and influence = power.
Iām not going to spend time researching a twitch streamer dude.
I donāt know who he is.
But if I do know who he is, heās not very famous.
But if he is famous, heās not doing anything newsworthy.
But if he is doing something newsworthy, itās not very important.
But if he is doing something important, I didnāt do any research about him.Lots of words to put in my mouth.
My first comment was āwho gives a shit about a twitch streamerā so obviously I know a bit about him Iāve just never wasted time in my life watch any twitch streamer.
And Iām definitely not going to research them either.
Sorry, I forgot the last line:
And if I didnāt do any research, itās because i already know Iām right and everyone else is wrong.
Weird that you think interviewing, fundraising, and getting out volunteers to doorknock/phonebank for DSA endorsed candidates nationwide isnāt anything important
Heās more important than you, youāre literally just a Lemmy poster, come on now
I donāt pretend to be anything but so I donāt know what that has to do with anything.
Sue Scott Jennings already maggoty. Shit or get off the pot.
He hasnāt defamed me.
Has that ever stopped you before?
Trump isnāt doing anything heās literally just a face from TV
Itās hard having political discussions when this is the level of understanding people have.
The ironyā¦
They wonāt understand it though
What do you agree the president of the us doesnāt make policy?
I like you, youāre a great poster here, but itās wild to pretend that ājust a steamerā means theyāre unimportant nowadays. Weāre not far from a streamer president in CURRENT YEAR, the amount of influence is incredible. I donāt like that fact, but hey, I gotta adapt.
Itās basically impossible to have a streamer president in 2026.
Maybe the democrats could have one in 2028 but why compete with the reality star republicans in a race to the bottom?
I think a race to the bottom is the only way in the USā¦ shit, anything is better than the opposition they try to throw at the party of evil lawl
I wasnāt saying streamer president immediately, but weāre for sure on track for streamer president by 2040. People love entertainer presidents (I meanā¦) and āstreamerā or āYouTuberā is far more recognized as a parasocial-able figure to latch onto than ātraditional media guyā at this point.
Edit: oh! I meant āIn CURRENT YEAR weāre not far from a streamer presidentā rather than āwe will have one right nowāāIām sorry for my bad verbiage in my other comment!
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And you are just an obsessed fucking nerdy incel who desperately wants to be heard here. You are worthless. You are a traitor of humanity. Go eat dirt, you piece of shit. We have already spoken multiple times before, and you still have not changed shit. You are still an American Exceptionalist terrorist we will open its head to the truth and move on. Fucking trash. You have made all those comments in like less than a year too by the way. Last time I shared this, the rate you had was like 30 comments per day. Like, dude. You are nothing.
Like I donāt have any particular interest, love or hate for Piker. I havenāt ever watched more than a few clips of him. But he does matter, both as a person and a political influencer. And your question is bullshit elitism. Saying āWhy does anyone give a shit about [blank]?ā and then filling that blank with any type of person you find frivolous, not for the content of their character or their opinions voiced, but for something like their chosen job or hobby, is fucking dumb. Particularly in relation to a politically active person in what is ostensibly a democracy. Everyone matters in a democracy. That is the actual point.
You may as well have said, āWhy does anyone give a shit about a janitor?ā Well if that janitor has a lot of political influence, good or bad, you should give a shit. What the fuck does it matter if he is a janitor, a twitch streamer, or any other role? If they are talking and people are listening and it is effecting peopleās political insights and mindset and vote, it doesnāt matter what they do for work or how they got their audience. It matters that others are listening. And it also matters that he is the object of political ire from his ideological opponents. No matter how dumb any of it is, these things have real tangible effects on our world. You donāt have to pay him any mind or grant his opinions any credence or like him or hate him or feel anything at all about him to acknowledge that he objectively does matter to the political sphere.
A decade ago, people where dismissive of Trump because he was (and is) a fucking caricature of a wealthy womanizing narcissist with a big mouth. āWho gives a shit about some rich real-estate playboy?ā, one might have asked. But his big mouth runs and millions of voters eat up every word. Do you think Trumpās bullshit matters now?
Maggot is furious because heās a centrist shill finally coming to terms with the fact that the progressives arenāt just right, theyāre far more popular than the neoliberal coalition.
Maggot is mad that leftists get things done without bending to fascists.
Lets see CrimesLegalNow furious card.
Hassan is not a lefty.
Janitors arenāt typically known for their narcissism like twitch streamers are.
Whenever you are using what someone is āknown forā as your criticism, you lose legitimacy to your argument. See, Scott Jennings intentionally tried to make Piker āknown forā lynchings. The āknown forā something critique is a Trump style attackā¦ā Everybody is talking about how Obama was born in Africa. Sounds like we shouldnāt trust that guy.". Itās lazy and malicious.
If you want to criticize Piker, do so for demonstrable conduct. All you did instead was signal to me your argument is bs.
He forms parasocial relationships with people for money like all twitch streamers or other streamers.
You donāt have to believe it Iām not trying to change your mind.
and clowns do pratfalls to entertain people, or apparently, belittle people on lemmy to further their agenda.
Youāre calling me a clown so I think youāre the only one belittling people in this conversation.
But by all means continue to do so if it makes you feel better.
only if you own the clause,
for someone who asks why we should even consider him important, you are very consistent in your attempt at dismissing him as a person. probably because he itās important, and his arguments are hard to assail.
He forms parasocial relationships with people for money like all twitch streamers or other streamers.
The para social relationship is you malding over someone who doesnāt know you exist.
So you are using ātwitch streamerā as shorthand for ānarcissistā then? So stack on a weird prejudice and stereotyping to your elitism. And everything else I said still stands. Even if we granted your prejudice, āsince when did narcissism in politics ever effect anyone, right? Who gives a shit about narcissists?ā ā¦ š¤Ø
You might want to try reading my comment instead of whatever the fuck you just did there.
It is so weird that you are pretending heās just some random nobody, but then seem to get really defensive about his politics and the amount of clout he seems to have with said politics.
Like, you donāt have to post here if you donāt really care about him. But, the fact that you keep posting seems to imply that you absolutely do care about him. Idk, man, that combined with your stance of how great centrism is, it looks like you want to look nonchalant about him without having to defend why you donāt like him (or more likely, his politics.)
I dig Maggoty but yeah, itās super weird. Extremely Reddit-brained take, like when a beloved rapper or something dies, coming in to say āI donāt know who that isā
Like okay thatās cool, youāre on the internet and can find out easily.
I have no interest in US politics or streamers, but I recognize this is way bigger than āstream guy talk about politicā at this point. Cumfart is being foolish thinking ājust a streamerā isnāt a big deal anymore. Weāre not far from a president who was a streamer, whether we like it or donāt wanna live on this planet anymore.
Where do I get defensive about his politics besides you just making that up now?
This entire thread, youāre butthurt about it.
I did. It was a quick read. You said unlike janitors, twitch streamers are known for often being narcissistsā¦ But please tell me what other nugget of wisdom I missed.
I donāt care about him personally, but the story is about a bad faith news commentator removing the āhe saidā nesting from a quote to make it sound like he was claiming precisely the viewpoint that he was criticizing. And that shit shouldnāt fly.
Also theyāre trying to run that story to smear not only him but also a progressive political candidate currently running a tight race. So yeah we should absolutely be calling it out.
the same reason anyone gives a shit about any celebrity, viewers are influence, friend.
Now go forth, and say this no more. The more you know
Twitch streamers arenāt celebrities and the only reason heās even relevant is because the republicans decided he is the devil and a liability for democrats.
The democrats have also decided heās the devil and a liability. When heās got both factions upset, heās gotta be doing something right.
Define ācelebrity.ā I certainly would consider many twitch streamers celebrities and public figures, even if I donāt care about or watch them. Many of these streams pull more viewers than mainstream media.
Trying to suggest that streamers arenāt influential in current year requires you to either live under a rock or be above the age of 60. Itās like trying to suggest that YouTubers arenāt influential in 2010.
Streamers are influential. Having 40k concurrent viewers is insane, and the actual metrics behind just how insane it is ends up being pretty difficult to parse without having someone else do the analytics for you.
Last time I checked the average time a viewer actually stays in a stream ends up being a few minutes. That also heavily depends on the streamer and what kind of content they produce. Hasan pulling tens of thousands of concurrent viewers is nuts and places him in the upper echelons of the top 1% of streamers on twitch.
Itās like trying to say that Assmoldbald isnāt influential. You are just wrong, even if you hate having to admit it.
Edit: I should say, I think Hasan is peak dudebro energy and routinely shoves his foot in his mouth. That being said, the man is influential - for better or worse.
Defending sone dude youāve never met like heās your best friend is the definition of a parasocial relationship.
If you want to go down that route so is this unhealthy amount of anger about them in the news.
Especially when for such a valid reason that also could cause issues for overall terrible human being Scott Jennings
Getting angry at some dude youāve never met like he killed your family is the definition of a parasocial relationship.
Inb4 youāre a Destiny viewer
Edit: āpeak dudebro energyā¦ shoves his foot in his mouthā these things arenāt compliments. Iād be more worried about aligning my messaging with the fascists, which youāre 100% doing.
What the fuck is a destiny viewer?
Iām going to treat you as if youāre not being
coydishonest, at which point - youāre better off not knowing. If you want to know more, go watch Professor Daveās videos on him.That being said, fascists are bad. Donāt do their job for them. If you want to tilt at windmills youāre free to do so, donāt be surprised when you get slapped in the face for it.
Whether we agree with him or not (I wish he was more of a revolutionary than a reformist), he is wielding a large amount of influence on the shifting political landscape of the US Empire.
Narcissists fixate on people. The right is full of those, so this happens. Happened with Clinton, AOC, now Piker.
Left too.
They fixated on Clinton, Sanders and Harris.
Yep
this guy gets attacked on Fox News more than entire minority groups, heās kind of like AOC, more famous for being hated by republicans than being liked by democrats.
Your orange cheeto master is a reality TV host, a failed business man who only made money through Russian mafia money laundering a pedophile and a rapist.
Canāt stand reality stars theyāre just as bad as streamers.
A lot of people watch twitch streamers or related videos/clips on yt. You canāt discount the amount of reach or influence a popular streamer can have.
I can and I will.
Thatās a dumb take thatāll leave you in the dust. Itās wide spread. Thereās no real way to deny that without denying reality.
If you said they shouldnāt be as popular and have as much impact as they do, sure Iām right there with ya, but they do.
Why the fuck would anyone give a fuck about you? You are literally a bot who works for the Jeffrey Epstein Class to whitewash Americaās crimes. You are always doing American Exceptionalism propaganda so your shit ass country can continue killing minorities like you do in my country, Mexico, through the Iron River you fund with your taxes.
You are fucking garbage. Get a fucking life already, you terrorist.
Because being smart is not acceptable in America.
Because being smart is not acceptable in America.
Piker has a degree in communications and political sci from Rutgers. What do you got?
I have a Masters from UCLA lmao.
What the fuck is Ucla? One of those flyover states?
Edit bc I wasnāt hostile enough: take your papermill degree and shove it up your ass, you obviously didnāt learn anything. Your little CC certificate wonāt save you when the revolution comes
Yāall really donāt know why nobody likes you, do you? Keep defending your loudmouth talking heads since you canāt think for yourself anyway.
Then you should be able to deduce that Americans listening to someone educated on these topics isnāt proof that being smart is not acceptable in America.
Itās more of a broad truism than an attack on Piker per se. The fact is, we have a culture that rewards stupidity.
I agree generally with you, this just isnāt relevant to this particular conversation.
I mean, for a smart guy - Hasan has said some really stupid shit in the past. Thatās what gets views though.
Because they want to believe he is not a piece of shit.
And hope.
And boy, are there bad news about that.
i see ā.deā and hope youāll take this kindly.
news is never pluralized. so even if you have multiple news stories, the stories can be plural, but the news is always singular.
āAnd boy, is there bad news about that.ā
You are a piece of shit for attacking him. The only people you benefit doing that is the Jeffrey Epstein Class. You are garbage.
Ah. Yes. The Hassan way.
Unrelated factoids to question someoneās morals. Then calling names.
It is childish behavior he was exposed for MULTIPLE times.
But keep believing Hassan is not a piece of shit and this is a correct behavior for an adult.
Why does he look like a budget John Malkovich in this pic??
Famous people get pictures taken of them without warning all the time. They will look bad.
Yeah especially when John Malkovich is getting pretty old and is probably available on a budget anyway.
Hasan Piker is a great example of a person whose fame is a sign of the world being fucked up.
Itās so funny when people edit their comments as if no one saw the weird shit you said earlier lol
This one didnāt see the weird shit. What was it?
āFuck Hasan Piker.ā
Then they edited in āProbably fuck Scott Jennings, too.ā
So maybe not weird weird, but itās weird to edit it like that lol
Looks like the scott Jennings part is gone
Yeah they edited the entire comment hence this side convo right here.
Tell me youāre conservative without telling me hahahaha
Probably fuck Scott Jennings, too? Lol
MAGA spotted. People like you benefit and support the Jeffrey Epstein Class, you are in no position to talk about what is fucked up.
Do MAGAs usually think that Trump should have been prison for treason/sedition/whatever after January 6 2021 and that heās generally speaking not only the worst US president in history but also among the worst famous people in history?
Because thatās how I think and I think it kinda conflicts with the idea of being MAGA.
Oh so you are a Blue MAGA. You hate Hasan because of what he said about 9/11? You are cultist who gave his loyalty to the country, not the people. That is blue MAGA. American Exceptionalism. You are costing us, Mexicans, over 30,000+ innocent people every year while you keep wasting time searching for āthe most perfect figure possibleā.
Ok bye forever weirdo.
Coward. As I expected. You just want to keep killing 30,000+ Mexicans every year. You probably have stocks in Lockheed Martin, Daniel Defense, Boeing, General Electric and shit. You profit off our deaths, hence why you hate Hasan. Heās fucking with the bag.
This is what every single Hasan hater is. Someone who benefits warmongers who profit off innocent peopleās deaths. The only reason I can think of of why you would do that, is because you are either a racist piece of shit, or make money with war. Which one is it? Being a sensitive leftie who doesnāt like the way he talks is not an option anymore. You are benefiting the worst people possible by being like that.
āFuck Hasan Piker. Probably fuck Scott Jennings, tooā
That was your reaction to this news.
MAGA statement in full right there from you.
I love how people on here are so willing to ignore abuse for people they like.
Source? Or are you doing a Scott Jennings and pulling things out of your ass?
They saw that one out of context now debunked clip where Hasanās dog tripped on itās bed and now hold it up as an example of him being an abuser.
Itās wild how we have Dan Saltman admitting he made up that shock collar rumor because of how viral Ethan Klein killing his own dog with cheese went and there are still people totally willing to believe him.
I firmly believe everyone who believes the lie has never had a pet. Iāve seen my cat fall off the ottoman while running around and then immediately just sit and bathe enough to believe thatās what Hasanās dog did. People say if itās an energetic puppy but then lays there and Iām like, yeah? You play with the puppies until they collapse so you can have some peace and quiet and theyāre happy napping.
Wait, Iām honestly curious about this one to finally put it to bed lol
Velma already posted the links for those coming here later!
Thank you! Found them a but further in the comment history too haha
Bout fucking time
