• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caOP
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    14 hours ago

    Steve still doesn’t quite see that this is the capitalist system working as intended - serving the owner (capitalist) class, but he’s definitely getting radicalized by the current reality of it.

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      13 hours ago

      capitalism worked pretty well in the 40’s and 50’s, in the USA, and then the corporate leaders realized that they could be overlords if they just stopped caring about everything but money.

      We know kindness and money can coexist, but if little boy jack is taught from day one that if you don’t game the system, you will lose, he’s going to grow up to be Elon Musk.

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        They knew they could be overlords and were that before The Great Depression too. We are just surpassing the level of wealth inequality that was reached prior to the system collapsing back then. What followed in the 40s and 50s was an abnormal period created by the imolementation of a significant number of socialist policies. These fuckers have been working to dismantle them. If we find a formula that allows for such reforms to stick for longer than several decades, that would be nice. There’s good reason for skepticism though.

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          Yep, lots of regulation, not necessarily even socialist stuff , some of it was just prudent financial system management. Glass-Steagall for example and bretton-woods and stuff that limited limited power and sought to tame some animal spirits.

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          Were they really socialist policies? From what I know, which is hardly academic in nature, they were policies designed to stave off a potential revolution (or collapse). There was no real control on the part of the workers, just safeguards and promises of better treatment. Welfare is not necessarily socialist in nature, just something that occurs from socialist development because of workers looking out for each other. Having welfare given to you, without more direct involvement in how it’s dispensed, is less socialist than it is reactionary.

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      The worst of it hasn’t happened yet. The point where consumers can no longer afford to consume is coming. The system isn’t self sustainable if they continue to chase profits in the short term regardless of what happens in the long term. They’re creating a system where only they will be consumers and that leads to a devaluation of all the currency they’re hoarding.

      Prices can’t continue to go up if people can’t afford things. This price hike is going to have far reaching consequences and increase prices of everything.

      The people of Germany were burning German marks in the street. They traded goods for goods when they were available, and burned the money for warmth.

      The rich of our current generation seem to think they can golden parachute out of this. They have t thought about the long term repercussions of a world power of the US’s magnitude defending to third world country status, but that’s what is coming.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

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        The worst of it hasn’t happened yet. The point where consumers can no longer afford to consume is coming.

        Its mostly already arrived.

        “As of June 30, the top 20% of earners accounted for more than 63% of all spending”

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        This means that the other 80% of Americans represent only 37% of the spending done today. If a company is looking to maximize profits the typical path is to do so by marketing to the group where they could earn the most money. That is less and less the bottom 80% of Americans.

    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      I mean, yeah, this is the system working as intended: corporations chasing profits and feeling no regrets about burning bridges in the process.