Never ascended once. Somewhere in the late midgame the inventory juggling becomes just too complicated and it feels like the last few turns of Civilization 4.
Tried fiqhack but it flakes on me a lot, can’t figure the reason, won’t find assets et c. I do dynahack now but it changes too much for my taste, and it doesn’t help the inventory problem when you have hundreds of items and try to make sense of it all.
And yet 30 years on something about it still tickles me pickle.
I sometimes play “Beneath Apple Manor” (1978) and similar-era games via Apple emulator. Believe it or not, it’s a “roguelike” that actually predated Epyx’ Rogue (1980) and NetHack (1987).
But I’m also thankful that Epyx’ Rogue happened to become used for the overall genre name. “BeneathAppleManorLike” is just too much of a mouthful!
Is it worth getting into it now? Without rose tinted glasses I mean. Or are there better alternatives? (Shattered Pixel Dungeon for example). I have tried Shattered Pixel but found it too nonsensical, having to learn tons of mechanics that don’t seem to make sense other than trial and error and huge RNG (which I am not a fan of).
To be fair trial and error and RNG are just par for the course with classic roguelikes, but learning how to manage all that is part of the appeal. Nethack and Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup are probably the two best-supported old classic roguelikes out there. Honorable mentions for Dwarf Fortress, which basically abandoned its roguelike mode in favor of a fortress simulator, and UnReal world, which is a weird outdoor primitive survival game that’s a testament to one man’s obsession.
There are also more modern offerings like Tales of Maj’Eyal, Caves of QUD, and Dungeons of Dredmor that are fully faithful roguelikes with either more modern graphics or QOL upgrades.
I go back to play some nethack pretty regularly.
Angband for me, high five my fellow older roguelike enjoyer
I’m not alone!
Never ascended once. Somewhere in the late midgame the inventory juggling becomes just too complicated and it feels like the last few turns of Civilization 4.
Tried fiqhack but it flakes on me a lot, can’t figure the reason, won’t find assets et c. I do dynahack now but it changes too much for my taste, and it doesn’t help the inventory problem when you have hundreds of items and try to make sense of it all.
And yet 30 years on something about it still tickles me pickle.
I sometimes play “Beneath Apple Manor” (1978) and similar-era games via Apple emulator. Believe it or not, it’s a “roguelike” that actually predated Epyx’ Rogue (1980) and NetHack (1987).
But I’m also thankful that Epyx’ Rogue happened to become used for the overall genre name. “BeneathAppleManorLike” is just too much of a mouthful!
Oh my god that game art! <3 <3 <3
I don’t know what it was about Apple II games, they just had an other-worldly quality to them.
The sound, too. It was like bird-chirping.
I loved it.
Hell yes!! And you can play it on the nethack site through terminal. So awesome. And watch others play it too
Is it worth getting into it now? Without rose tinted glasses I mean. Or are there better alternatives? (Shattered Pixel Dungeon for example). I have tried Shattered Pixel but found it too nonsensical, having to learn tons of mechanics that don’t seem to make sense other than trial and error and huge RNG (which I am not a fan of).
To be fair trial and error and RNG are just par for the course with classic roguelikes, but learning how to manage all that is part of the appeal. Nethack and Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup are probably the two best-supported old classic roguelikes out there. Honorable mentions for Dwarf Fortress, which basically abandoned its roguelike mode in favor of a fortress simulator, and UnReal world, which is a weird outdoor primitive survival game that’s a testament to one man’s obsession.
There are also more modern offerings like Tales of Maj’Eyal, Caves of QUD, and Dungeons of Dredmor that are fully faithful roguelikes with either more modern graphics or QOL upgrades.
Yes. Its still awesome. And I never got to play it in the heyday.
Its just an engaging game for me.
Nethack.org