I’ve learned it best to use nvidia drivers with nvidia cards and the AMD drivers with the AMD cards. I recommend this for performance.
Thank you for posting this!! I can’t get an erection. I tried using an AMD driver the other day with my NVIDIA card and was stumped why my screen was blank. I’d give you gold if I could!
Absolutely crazy take, I bet no one has thought of this.
Intel drivers:
I need an intel driver to turn the fucking useless onboard graphics off. for debian. any tips?
any tips?
My laptop has this option in the bios settings
Not sure if it’s only for laptops but you could check there.I checked, it’s the easiest option and isn’t on my stupid MSI motherboard
Leave it to budget boards to exclude every possible useful setting but keep “boot from lan”
when I bought this fucker for £800 in 2018, I assure you it did not feel budget.
HOW MUCH
I thought it was a budget $150 board…
The link is to a laptop.
Also, it’s MSI for “multiple serious issues”
You can’t. Some laptops have the igpu as the dedicated driver of the display and can’t do hardware mux. If your laptop doesn’t offer the option in UEFI, it probably doesn’t support it.
thank you for this info. what do you think would happen if I did the following , more or less with the info indicated in my post here?
https://gist.github.com/pjobson/9e5f7349cf4f28bc82f82ea980047778
https://lemmy.world/post/43248486/22203270EDIT: I’d get a fucking black screen. 😭🔫
I think it’s more of a
Open drivers vs proprietary drivers
That’s the thing with AMD drivers, they’re the damn near perfect software. Doing lots of stuff yet you’d never know it’s there. It stays nicely out of the user’s way, you don’t even have to think about installing them and shit just works
Then there are the Nvidia drivers
They are not perfect, but their developers – 1 or 2 actually allocated to work on in-kernel drivers, such as Mario Limonciello – almost are.
I used em dashes to avoid a comma party, I promise I am not a LLM bot
I used em dashes to avoid a comma party, I promise I am not a LLM bot
that’s what I would say if I was an LLM bot!!
👀
That’s why I said “damn near perfect”
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It used to be this way and was one of my biggest complaints. It’s no longer this way. Drivers for my Nvidia card works fine on my mint and arch setup.
X.org or Wayland?
I used xorg on mint and wayland on arch. No issues related to drivers on either.
I experience some screen flickering and short blackouts.
the upsides of buying from a Company that donates to OSS projects rather then not donating and only maintains proprietary drivers.
IK broadcom also does this too,but broadcom do have drivers in Mesa only for the Raspberry PI.I haven’t had any issues with my nvidia GPU. I did some distro-hopping and didn’t have any nvidia issues in any of the distros I tried.
If you want everything to work out of the box, I would recommend Bazzite. Pop! OS had me using the AMD image and fetching the nvidia driver manually (the nvidia image just didn’t work for me). After that, everything worked brilliantly.
Bazzite just works unless you have a Gigabyte b550 motherboard. Guess what I have?
the nvidia desktop version of bazzite didnt work with vulkan for me. it was still attempting to use mesa drivers for it. this was after debian where what i was trying to do required bleeding edge drivers which obviously wasnt going to work. then i just said fuck it and went with ubuntu like i have my entire linux career. you can hate on me, but it honestly works good enough
No hate, fam. Penguin brothers stick together
Thanks
Wow, opposite issues! Bazzite worked out of the box for me, but Ubuntu was awful. I spent several hours just to get my wired internet to work, threw every fix I could find at it, eventually fixed it with a modprobe, used it for a few days and decided that Ubuntu wasn’t for me.
No way ? this is what I have. What are the issues ?
The issues were random black outs when the system was idle. The system just shut off display output and you had to force shutdown. Only logs that were there pointed to a popular Bazzite sleep issue. Didn’t look like it was worth it trying to patch it (fresh install) so I just swapped over to CachyOS.
ok cheers good to know
Big ooof!
AMD should make drivers for nVidia hardware. 🤷♂️
They’d probably work better than Nvidia’s
Never had an issue with my Nvidia card. OBS can use the hardware encoder out of the box. Just a few weeks ago upgraded to a AMD card and had to set some “advanced” settings in OBS to do the same. Really happy overall, but after seeing this meme for years I expected rainbows and sunshine but was unpleasantly surprised in that regard.
my nvidia card caused sleeping and hibernation to randomly and regularly fail, and it made me very vary of system updates breaking random things.
i wish i could go to an amd card but i just upgraded my video card (geforce rtx 4060 ti) like 3 months before i decided to move to linux :(
Jo, no problem! Just use the proprietary drivers and vulcan, cuda etc. Just works
Especially with a recent card, like a 4060. Problematic are only the cards which are considered legacy by nvidia (I think older than the GTX 900 series), because they do not update their drivers for newer kernels. In these cases resorting to nouveau (in-kernel driver for nvidia cards) is your best bet, but you will not use the card’s full potential.
Edit: One can of course use proprietary drivers with legacy cards if you use a distro in a legacy kernel. But having old kernel then comes with less compatibility to other devices, as backports generally take their time.
yeah its not too bad i have the regular drivers and nvidia-smi shows the card using the gpu for most things; and jellyfin works great too.
i wish ff7 rebirth worked better but i think thats more of the game than a card.
What distro do you use, generally, there is a relatively easy way to switch to the nvidia proprietary ones, or what is “regular”in your case?
Last time I switched nvidia drivers after initial installation, I had to uninstall (lib32-)vulkan-nouveau (32bit and 64bit) and install (lib32-)nvidia-utils manually, but I guess, that may distro specific.
i’m on mint
➜ 11:11 katy ~ apt list --installed | grep "nvidia" libnvidia-cfg1-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-common-580/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 all [installed,automatic] libnvidia-compute-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-compute-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-decode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-decode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-egl-wayland1/noble-updates,now 1:1.1.13-1ubuntu0.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-egl-wayland1/noble-updates,now 1:1.1.13-1ubuntu0.1 i386 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-encode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-encode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-extra-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-fbc1-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-fbc1-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-gl-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libnvidia-gl-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic] nvidia-compute-utils-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-dkms-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-driver-550/noble-updates,noble-security,now 550.163.01-0ubuntu0.24.04.2 amd64 [installed] nvidia-driver-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-firmware-550-550.144.03/noble-updates,noble-security,now 550.144.03-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed] nvidia-firmware-550-550.163.01/noble-updates,now 550.163.01-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed] nvidia-firmware-580-580.126.09/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-kernel-common-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-kernel-source-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-prime-applet/zena,zena,now 1.4.8 all [installed] nvidia-prime/noble,noble,now 0.8.17.2 all [installed,automatic] nvidia-settings/noble,now 510.47.03-0ubuntu4 amd64 [installed,automatic] nvidia-utils-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]I see 😇 you are already using latest proprietary nvidia drivers, if I read that correctly and you have nvidia-utils, which enables you to use Vulkan
Anyway, on mint, one uses the GUI tool driver-manager to switch (nvidia)drivers:
hm actually i thought i was right but they are recommending me the proprietary one
Hu? Your APT tells, that you have the 580 installed but GUI tells you have nouveau installed? 😮
Btw. The (open) means that nvidia has made parts of the driver open source
You could flip it
When you want to do GPU processing for AI, crypto, video editing, etc, though, this gets reversed.
Getting Cuda working on Linux with an nvidia card is relatively painless. Just a few well-documented commands, worked on the first try.
I could never get AMD’s equivalent to work on Linux, though, and it led me down a horrible rabbit-hole of trying a dozen different driver versions from a dozen different places, all with their own unique and quirky ways of installing… And it still never did work.
ROCM is pretty simple. It’s just no where near as robust and supported as Cuda.
Thats just poor distro support, kind of like CUDA in the past… ROCM should “just work” if it’s shipped right. But it’s not really a priority with maintainers.
Now, if you’re trying to run CUDA stuff with ROCM, that’s a whole different story. The bast majority of GPU software has extremely poor ROCM support compared to CUDA, and some of this is definitely from AMD footgunning.
For me cuda was painful. I did the well documented commands, rebooted and had no output on my laptop screen anymore. Probably a complication due to Optimus, but still…
It was definitely Optimus. If you’ve got an Optimus laptop, everything bad in your life can somehow be traced back to it. Bad battery life? Optimus. Buggy video? Optimus. Hurts when you pee? Optimus. God I fucking hate Optimus.
The NVIDIA driver is alright now, but in my experience had un-debuggable segfaults in the opengl part, so I had to abandon it. Sad.
This kinda reminded me of a scene in That 70s Show where Red Forman strongly recommended to his son that he should only fit accessories compatible with his 1969 Oldsmobile car.
I’m running wayland with nvidia-open and nvidia-utils packages, and have never encountered any driver issues in both graphics and compute.
You mean all three apps that support waylamd are working? Wow. At the same time?
Intel be like that skeleton at the bottom underwater
