• flabberjabber@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I really would love Kurtzman to fuck the fuck off at this point.

    He has never understood Star Trek at its core. The intricacies and nuances that never should have been messed with; and the superfluous excesses that could be. This is obvious in so many ways. But none more than how he has pushed the narrative in lazy directions repeatedly; yet consistently these were shown not to work. It took him the entire run of discovery to learn this lesson! And even then, never completely.

    It has only been relatively recently, when the shows have embraced Trek’s historical strengths in order to create a new vision, that shows have started to truly excel and grab both fans and public attention. But even then, there’s a lack of bold vision and gut. These shows are timid when it comes to exploring ethics and philosophy in ways the 90s and 60s shows never were for their time.

    For me, I think fundamentally it speaks to a dumbing down of story telling. It speaks to a lowest common denominator prioritisation by shown runners. It speaks to networks who never take chances.

    With Kurtzman it has seemed that each iteration had a predictable path involving a big threat that must be extinguished by the end of season. High stakes with extreme predictability. Because of this prioritisation, so often it felt like the characters served the story, rather than the other way around. That’s not how you get people to care for characters on a show.

    Trek was never about this. Historical Trek was about exploring modern ethical dilemmas in a safe sci-fi environment first and foremost. Secondary to that it was about showing how human beings could exist in balance with each other and other species. We need this positive vision now more than ever and yet modern trek feels like a shadow of its former self. It feels too often like skin deep lip service. But, it is improving iteration to iteration.

    So please Alex, fuck the fuck off and give some other splendid bastard a shot in the big chair. Unless Ellison intends to replace younwithba fascist. In which case I’m your biggest fan.

    PS (and slight SFA spoilers): Did no one else briefly turn off starfleet academy after they tased Nus Braka, even though he was in court, unarmed and only mouthing off? I was outraged that SFA began in such a manner, it didn’t serve the plot, and was wholly unnecessary and disporportionate. It made no sense in the context of the rest of the season.

    SFA then ended with a slap and punch to Nus’s face. The casual brutality bookended an otherwise great series. It was a baffling choice, unless it is viewed as being a means of desentising the audience to unnecessary violence from the state. Then it makes perfect sense. That, that is perhaps the thin end of the fascist wedge.

  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    I’ll take more workplace comedy with Tawny Newsome.

    Lower Decks was the best of the newer Trek series and her podcast had been a real hoot. It was fun seeing her in the Lower Decks x Strange New Worlds crossover, so I bet she’ll do well in a series.

    It would be cool to see more SNW, too.

    Edit: reminder that paramount is owned by a right wing oligarch who is actively trying to control our media and destroy our democracy so don’t pay them a fucking cent!

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    6 months ago

    I’ve given up. I didn’t finish Discovery. Got bored with SNW. Haven’t even seen any episodes of SA. I just don’t care about Star Trek any more. I’m not angry, just bored.

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      6 months ago

      It’s okay to take a break. Come back if you feel the itch.

      I took a big Star Trek break after PIC S1 and came back to the franchise appreciating more than ever before.

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        6 months ago

        OMG: Picard. I forgot about that show. I didn’t finish that one either.

        I’ve liked Andor, Pluribus, and Severence. I honestly think the problem with Trek is Paramount execs. Kurtzman is just a symptom. He’s the figurehead to implement a policy of content by focus group. Never mind not knowing old trek or claims of pushing politics, the writers couldn’t write good material even if they wanted to because execs don’t care about that. They only want their target demographic.

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          6 months ago

          Well, I have a much rosier view of new Trek than yours, but I feel the need to thank you for listing some genuinely good modern sci-fi as alternatives. So often in these discussions I just see “they should do what The Orville did,” like a TNG Xerox is an interesting or even viable way to propagate the franchise.

          Pluribus in particular did a great job interrogating a threat essentially shared with a classic Trek villain from a refreshingly new perspective. Good recommendation.