• Pman@lemmy.org
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      24 days ago

      Are you asking about the Ukranians civilians killed by Russia or something else?

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          25 days ago

          do you deny the last 8 years of Banderite terror before “evil RuZZia attacked us poor peole unprovoked”
          you’re like fucking zionists who think hjistory started on oct 7

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            Yes I don’t think that happened, if Russian people had been oppressed in Eastern Ukraine then they would have moved just several miles east into the open arms of Russia and been safe. They would hardly have stayed if they felt in danger. I do know someone who made the mistake of staying put in Bucha when the Russians arrived and saw them murder civilians in the street.

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              wow negationism, a good old nazi practice. Never mind the facts or reporting on it before the western regime press suddenly had to say ‘no nazis in ukraine’ most people leaving ex-ukraine actually went to Russia instead of leeching of the west.
              And no, they don’t need to move because the nazi thugs attacked them.

              And lol at Bucha, the ridiculous BS story where the mayer is laughing a day after Russia left and 3 days later they suddenly find a massacre.
              And the victims just happen to wear (pro-Russia)white armbands and had Russian food boxes.
              This when the nazi Safari regiment was sent in to clear the area of ‘Russian collaborators’.
              So fuck you nazi revisionist.
              Again it’s those fascist thugs that did the warcrimes. But you keep supporting the great EU/US side.
              Unappologetically on the side of shitrael genociders and mass mrdering Iranian children.
              disgusting

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                You ever been to Ukraine or Russia? Ive been crossing that border. If there was any meaningfull opression in eastern Ukraine people would run to Russia and be happy to be refugees. Eastern Ukraine was poor as fuck and western russia was a massive potemkin village, some 50-100km into Russia looked great, compared. Nearly EU level. Only when you get beyond that you get tp see the actual state of the country, and even the areas where money is pumped lools more lile american slums.

                Oh, and yeah nazis from Ukraine should be dealt same way the Russian ones. Fuck banderites, amd fuck anyone who attempts to label an d stogmatise entire society by one minority group, an utterly nazi thing to do btw.

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                  they bombed them for 8 years, a lot worse than “meaningfull opression”.
                  All civilian targets.
                  And why should they run from their own country and let it be taken over by Banderites? A lot left, a lot stayed.
                  Same on the other side.
                  The economic situation is irrelevant.
                  As in all western propaganda ypu minimize the scope and influence of Banderites.
                  Nazis don’t magically change their ideology because the Azov scum change their nazi logo a bit as we are made to believe.
                  Also they, as most visible and blatant are describesd as unique and an exception.
                  While there are plenty fascist batallions like Sich and Tornado. There are plenty more outside of the military and they have infested others with their ideology when they joined other instances of society.

                  And here’s the nr 1 challenger for Zelenski should they have elections in ‘free and democratic’ ukraine.


                  I’m not saying everyone in ex-ukraine is a fascist but minimizing and whitewashing their huge nazi problem as is done here in the west is disgusting.
                  but that is of course the easy way for the US and vassals of getting regime change without fighting.
                  Arm and fund terrorists of all kinds in countries they don’t like.
                  Whether it’s fascists or headchoppers like Jolani, etc… Later to be rehabilitated when they take over a country and become a puppet regime.

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                    24 days ago

                    they bombed them for 8 years, a lot worse than

                    Yeah, and yet theres no proof for that claim in satellite or aerial pictures. Should look like the surface of the moon after 8years. Compare to any village or city Russian offensive rolls over, theres hardly a wall standing.

                    And why should they run from their own country and let it be taken over by Banderites?

                    Thought they were Russians and part of Russia since forever? Can you settle for one version of the propaganda claims?

                    As in all western propaganda ypu minimize the scope and influence of Banderites.

                    Where are you from mate? Cuz actuall Banderites slaughtered tens of thausands of people in my country. I often travel around a region where ethnical cleasing from both sides left hundreds of villages abandonded and covered by forrests. Being antifa its rather hard not to take that into consoderation, especially when cooperating with our comrades in Ukraine. Now who the fuck are you to claim to know what is going on? Where are you active and what are your sources on information on this? What gives you the right to question the people actually dealing with this?