If someone told you that they wanted to/have gone to this place you would be very suspicious of them. For me it’s Theiland and The Philippines. Nothing good happens there.

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    Nothing good happens there.

    That’s a peak western chauvinist take right there. My wife and I are lowkey planning a trip to Thailand to explore the food, suppose that makes us some sort of creeps?

    This whole concept of some places being judge worthy is racist as hell.

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      While Theiland does have a rich history and culture you being deliberately naive if you’re saying that there isn’t massive prostitution industry there. I’m not saying anything bad about the country I’m just saying if you want to visit you probably don’t have the best intentions.

      “This whole concept of some places being judge worthy is racist as hell.”

      If knowing the difference between good and bad makes me racist then sign me up for racism school.

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        You’d have to be really fucking retarded to believe that those things are only bad and prevelant in those countries. Or that their governments aren’t doing anything to try and stop those things either. So honestly you’ll be doing everyone there a favor by never going 😂. Also if your brain is capable of it, why not try flipping it the inverse and see how it sounds coming from the other way. “If someone told me they wanted to go/have been to the U.S. despite knowing about the constant mass shootings, police brutality, human trafficking issues, the list goes on, then I’d be really suspicious of them. NoThInG gOoD hApPeNS oVEr tHeRE.” god you’d sound fucking stupid. Good thing you didn… oh wait💀😭

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    Nothing good happens there.

    This is incredibly dismissive of two entire countries and cultures. I suspect it’s based out of ignorance or preconceived notions rather than any actual experience or knowledge

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      It is. I used to go there all the time back in the late 80’s/early 90’s for the prostitution. It’s pretty much legal over there. There’s a lot of red light districts in Amsterdam you can visit that just exist out in the open. It’s great. I stopped after a little bit once I found out about the legal consequences this could have but I still look back at it fondly.

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    Thailand is an absolutely beautiful country with amazing food why would you say “nothing good happens there”, I don’t know enough about the Philippines to have an opinion about it but that also seems like quite an overstatement for them as well

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      It’s pretty known for sex tourism, including the underage kind. It’s only if it somebody who fits the profile of a sex tourist, though.

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        I just can’t imagine having a person I call a friend who told me they came back from Thailand and my thought went to I bet they went there to sleep with underage prostitutes. Like I know people do that but I would never willingly associate with a person who I thought would do that

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          I’ve never had a guy tell me that exactly, but I’ve definitely encountered people (drunk people? I feel like I’m remembering a drunk guy going on about it) who have mentioned regularly going to Thailand and who make me wonder.

          I’m not talking intimate, close confidants here.

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            But like if you had a work friend tell you that they are going to Thailand for vacation would your first thought be sex tourism or just normal vacation?

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      You’re just being deliberately stupid here. I refuse to believe you don’t know about the massive sex tourism industry there. While every now and then there may be someone who is genuinely interested in witnessing the history and culture of Thailand/The Philippines more often than not it’s some perv looking to get his rocks off with some ladyboy. Just ask a Thai or Filipino person and they’ll tell you exactly what I’m saying.

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        You’re unsurprisingly getting a lot of replies along these lines, taking issue with this strange and unfounded blanket statement about an entire country and you’re replying back to them with similar riffs on the theme that those commenters are being disingenuous and masking a kind of widely known understanding that the reason people visit there is for the sex industry.

        I have to say I think you might have gotten the wrong idea there. There’s a kernel of truth to it in that yes, it is known to be a place where sex tourism occurs so you could say it was famous for it, but I also don’t think that that’s like, their thing. Other commenters have tried to persuade you of this by pointing out compelling reasons one might go there other than for sex tourism but you seem unwilling to believe them because of this idea you’ve latched on to that they’re being deliberately naive. I think it might help just to point out that, at least amongst Australians, this is a very mainstream holiday destination, like it’s not a place where anyone would raise their eyebrows to hear you were going there. You could happily discuss this at any workplace and say you’re going to Thailand for a holiday and you’d probably get a lot people saying how much they love the place and asking which part you’re going to. I’d be surprised to learn if somehow all or even most of these people, sometimes families with children, had all gone there for a shag and also that this practice was so widely known that it was somehow a reasonable, immediate assumption to make about why they’d chosen Thailand and yet they also decided to broadcast this intention to everyone they know.

        While I don’t know the stats, I would guess that a lot of the world’s sex tourism probably occurs there, so I imagine that’s where you got the idea that that’s THE reason to go there but it’s also just a place where a lot of tourism generally happens.

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        Maybe I just don’t associate with people who are pieces of shit because none of my friends who went to Thailand or the Philippines went there for sex tourism… obviously it exists there but to discredit the entire country as just a place of sex tourism is extremely xenophobic, if the majority of people you know who go to Thailand are going for sex tourism that sounds like more of a problem with your friend group

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    Thailand or the Philippines is actually the right answer, although it heavily depends on maleness and general vibes. If it’s a women I’d just think “have fun eating street curry”.

    Dubai consistently knocks them down a couple pegs of respect.

    I’ll submit Israel. Unless it’s to visit family there’s no wholesome reason to insert yourself there at the moment.

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        I used to work in Thailand off and on for 5 years and also spent 4 months in Philippines over that time scuba diving all over and visiting volcanoes etc. both are amazing places and to write them off just because some old creeps go for girls is flat out ridiculous

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    If you’re a broke and amoral European lady with no interest in history, architecture or Islam and you tell me you’re going to Dubai…

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      “Amoral” 🤣 Like Dubai has any business judging morals

      Ignore me, the point went “whoosh” over my head

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          What’s she going for?

          Whatever she wants because the UAE welcomes wealth and excessive spending, that’s kind of its whole thing (that and human rights violations). The idea that visiting Dubai is precedented by an interest in history is not grounded in reality. If Dubai was concerned about anything other than excess wealth, why do they keep building things like the burj khalifa and an indoor snow ski slope?

          Ignore this, I really misunderstood the comment

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            Yeah, history was maybe a stretch, lol, the country kinda gives me the heevie jeebies tbh but some people do go to for instance Sharjah to live quiet lives, some perhaps even to Dubai for Islamic studies or whatnot (the ladies that are getting pooped on are from particular demographics and ethnicities too, because that’s what these wild rich fucks are into, so I specified not to suspect everyone going to Dubai!) but the nightlife and private events can be and often do get haram AF 🤷😅

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            Exactly. It’s definitely not for any plausible moral reason.

            Although OP also mentioned she’s broke, so it might not work out as planned…

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    I’ll judge you for any holiday destination that you travel to for anything but visiting family. Did you make your own country so ugly you have to go somewhere where it’s still nice, causing the place to become a resort desert? Can’t afford booze in your own country so you have to annoy the locals by ambling along their beaches in drunk shrimp mode? Want to explore the latest ‘cool’ city making rent unaffordable for locals in the process? Just stay at home and make sure it’s a place you don’t want to run away from.

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      Isolationist viewpoints are the complete opposite of what we need right now. Most of your reasons don’t even apply to the majority of tourists; it’s the select few idiots who fuck everything up.

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        I’m pretty sure that those who have fucked up Barcelona, Lisbon, Mallorca, Ibiza, most of the Mediterranean and countless other places around the world were more than a select few idiots. Beautiful beaches (before all the resorts are built), cheap partying (before all the tourist traps open) and must-have-seen culture (before they have to protect the famous artworks from being destroyed by the masses) are the reasons why most people travel abroad. It’s a bad habit and people should really ask themselves if the nearest lake isn’t just as relaxing - or even more relaxing - than yet another place far away destroyed by its own desirability. And then they still have the gall to get whiny when their beautiful resort surrounded by ‘nature’ burns down in a wildfire and they have to shorten their vacation! Planet is on fire but it obviously has nothing to do with my cheap Ryanair flight!

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          Your argument is shit. It’s basically “some tourists bad, therefore all tourism bad.”

          Like how dare people want to see the world?

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            You misread. My argument is “most tourists bad, most tourism bad”. Considering the crisis situation we are living in, especially climate change, people should ask themselves whether seeing the world is really that important. Questioning the tourism industry as a whole sure makes people defensive. I’m not against people seeing other places at all, I’d rather not have it happen in the way it’s happening now as it’s stupidly destructive and selfish. Can we set up things in a way where you can rather spend several months immersed in a different culture than rushing to somewhere for the two measly weeks your employer lets you out of your cubicle? Or is that too radical and we’re doomed to forever keep building ugly resorts and turn everything into AirBnbs?

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      So wait, does this apply in both directions? It seems kind of impossible that people from city A are ruining city B and people from city B are also ruining city A.

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        I can’t tell you why anyone in their right mind would do this but apparently they do. Although usually there will be more people going from the more expensive city A to the cheaper city B.