If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?

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    Well can Eastern Ukraine?

    Because as a “sovereign” nation, Ukraine is an amalgation nation of two bordering existing countries of which the partner organisation NATO’s sole existence in question is to be enemies with one of the two bordering countries and thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.

    This is in stark contrast to the US full-scale invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and further invasions of Libya, Syria and Palestine which WERE sovereign nations, where no such dilemma took place.
    Bush’ full scale invasion of Iraq was based on lies.
    Bush’ full scale Afghanistan invasion was based on searching a fugitive.
    The full scale bombardment of Lybia was because the US did not like Lybia’s leader.
    Same with Syria.
    For Palestine, it’s Israel that wants to genocide the country.

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      thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.

      The violence started when the Russian puppet president walked away from an EU trade deal that he literally campaigned on making, then cracked down on the resulting protests. Then an actual Russian created rebellion started. Calling that “suppressing dissent” is disingenuous as fuck.

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        The greatest lie the west ever convinced itself is that trump is a Russian puppet, how many levels of American bureaucracy has to be compromised to even allow for this? Hahaha

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        Like it or not, the reality is that regions in the East of Ukraine were very much on record as supporting Yakunovych, and closer relations with Russia, for decades. There’s only one reason the Minsk agreements fell through, and it’s because they did not want to give eastern regions autonomous votes.

        If the other half of your country coup’d your president, half-outlawed your language and ignored the political will of your half of the country, you might have a right to be upset and label that suppression.

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        “it’s not suppressing descent if you accuse the people you’re supressing of being Russian agents first”

        Thank you for that insight, senator McCarthy.