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    Stein was a spoiler and a Russian asset, if voting your conscious meant voting for her your conscious is fuckin stupid.

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      You can see how refusing to distance herself from genocide left an opening that spoiler candidates could exploit, can’t you?

      And since you and a bunch of other dopey centrists are gonna imagine that this is somehow an admission of a vote for stein if I don’t say this: I voted for harris.

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        The people shouting the loudest about Gaza historically don’t fucking vote, ever. So why would anyone assume catering to them would amount to anything when they already don’t vote? It’s not complicated and her position on Palestine likely didn’t have significant effect on the outcome because anyone that actually votes knew well the republicans would embolden netanyahu. And good that you voted for Harris, now please stop trying to convince people not to vote because that gets republicans elected and republicans are worse because they’re unified and they’re all as bad as the worst Dems. It’s not fucking complicated. Like this is literally the only option that isn’t full on violent revolution, societal collapse, or the christofascist technofeudalist dystopia the republicans are ushering in.

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          The people shouting the loudest about Gaza historically don’t fucking vote, ever.

          I shout pretty loud about the genocide wing’s greatest accomplishment, and I vote.

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              Do the republicans your wing of the party keeps pursuing vote for you? Because it seems to me like “you never vote for us” never caused centrists to ignore them.

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                I don’t understand why you refuse to understand that if progressives voted for progressive candidates in democratic primaries in enough numbers then we would have progressive democratic candidates.

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                    If progressives voted progressively we’d have a progressive party. We don’t, therefore progressives don’t vote.

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                  People don’t want to register to vote in primaries while there are ICE thugs with guns watching, and registration in primaries isn’t (successfully) protected information.

                  The DNC could waive the registration requirement and get progressive voters to turn out for primaries.

                  But we both know not to expect the DNC to do that.

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                    So we’re back to progressives don’t vote and you’re wondering what the fuckin deal is? Progressives don’t vote. That’s the deal. If they did we’d have a progressive party, but instead we get republican water carriers spouting your rhetoric.

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      I don’t disagree which is why I’ve never voted Stein. The Green Party has never been a serious third party to me, but seems to get brought up as a strawman at every turn when a blueberry wants to avoid their cognitive dissonance.