• chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    The ratchet is awful, but in this moment it’s still the lesser of 2 evils.

    These “both sides” arguments are like saying you refuse to walk across a shitty floor because you want to keep your shoes clean when the alternative is being fully immersed in sewage with your mouth open.

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      8 days ago

      Meanwhile you’re still refusing to fix the pipes because the floor is clean.

      You guys did this shit with Biden. And here we are.

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          7 days ago

          Stop acting like anyone who wants better than “second worst genocide supporter” wants perfection.

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          7 days ago

          Again, it’s not like this wasn’t tried. You did “not a Nazi” in 2020. And it led you here.

          VBNMW has been failing since it was coined in 2004. And yet people still act like they’re somehow wise in insisting on it.

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            7 days ago

            And in 2020, we didn’t elect a fucking Nazi and things were better than before and way better than now. Was the world magically made perfect? No. But it was better.

            And when the current batch is kicked out, things will still be bad. It will take decades to fix what’s been broken. And that sucks. But just because the repairs are going to be slow, painful, and inefficient doesn’t mean we should just let the wrecking ball keep swinging.

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              7 days ago

              And when the current batch is kicked out, things will still be bad. It will take decades to fix what’s been broken. And that sucks. But just because the repairs are going to be slow, painful, and inefficient doesn’t mean we should just let the wrecking ball keep swinging.

              It does mean that democrats have to actually attempt repairs and stop pulling the football away like they did with all the promises Biden made to get elected but never actually intended to keep.

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                6 days ago

                Biden didn’t stop Israel. That was bad.

                But otherwise, he did well. The economy recovered, he pulled out of Afghanistan and started no new wars. He tried to forgive student loans but the GOP stopped him.

                One thing to understand is that the Dems haven’t had fillibuster-proof control of the government in DECADES except for about 2 months in 2009. Al Franken wasn’t seated until Ted Kennedy had left for the medical leave prior to his death, and the Tea Party took Kennedy’s seat, halting all progress.

                When the Dems have nominal control, the GOP is so obstructionist Mitch McConnel fillibustered his own bill when the Dems agreed to go along with it.

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                  6 days ago

                  Biden didn’t stop Israel. That was bad.

                  Biden actively aided Israel.

                  But otherwise, he did well.

                  But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

                  One thing to understand is that the Dems haven’t had fillibuster-proof control of the gov

                  They didn’t need a filibuster-proof majority to keep playing arms dealer for a genocide. Just for stuff they didn’t want to do, like the things they promised when they were trying to get elected.

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                    6 days ago

                    It sure is a good thing Trump hasn’t been even worse when it comes to Israel’s aggression. We sure fixed things by allowing Trump to win!

                    When the only 2 options have bad positions on Israel, then Israel is no longer an issue to consider in the election.