Hehe. The people who ignored systemd are the same people who don’t think any of this is a problem. The kind of people who can’t understand that you have to fight this kind of bullshit anytime it pops up or it eventually wins.
I’m still trying to figure out how systemd has anything to do with this. Any configurable level user database could have implemented this. /etc/passwd has your “Real Name” in it as well. Finger protocol could have been selected to expose this. Literally there’s dozens of different places the age thing could have been implemented. The maintainers of systemd decided to be the first. Hell, MidnightBSD just added a daemon to implement it.
Likewise if you’re informed enough you also know there’s a flag to explicitly block it and ways to patch it out. While I’m typically a Slackware and sysvinit type of person, there’s nothing unique about systemd that enabled the shitty law California passed. And fi you really care about privacy, how about less gloat and more information about ways around it, like this fork.
You’ll go a lot further educating folks how to get around the things you perceive as bad rather than whatever your original comment was. The entire point is to get people … on your side.
That the developers chose to add it at the same time as all the age verification stuff was starting is too much of a coincidence. It shows that some developers in important roles will go along with age verification. The systemd thing can be argued the way that it has been but it’s the beginning of the slippery slope
i guarantee you the lawmakers who pass this kind of awful law have no idea what systemd even is or what it does
blaming it (or “systemd simps”) for this is a colossal waste of time. the surveillance society has been progressively installed in the imperial core ever since 9/11, age verification and what’s it turning into is a consequence of this, and systemd adding an age field is a consequence of that.
blaming systemd for this shit, even in part, is so bafflingly silly, such a ridiculous example of swapping cause and effect that i can’t imagine you’re doing it sincerely but apparently people agree with this???
that’s like blaming the small creek in your garden for the existence of the raging river upstream. idk.
I’m blaming the PEOPLE who say “no biggie, just a number” who can’t seem to get it through their thick, dumb, argumentative skulls that these kind of things ALWAYS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION lead to loss of privacy and more authoritarian laws.
There’s a big picture. Stop arguing the tiny points with me and SEE IT.
You’re shooting the messenger. Meta and others are lobbying governments hard for this. They’re the ones causing you to lose your privacy. Not the volunteers that maintain systemd.
And you can go contact your local/state/federal government representatives (I mean actually call, or go to town halls). But you won’t, because hating on systemd is more important to you than your privacy.
It’s as plain as day. You’ll agree with me in a few years.
Lmfao, you think contacting reps is a thing that works in 2026? You must be over 60, right? With no clue where the world is going… or, you LOVE where the world is going… that’s probably more accurate.
No, it’s pretty clear that you’re the one that LOVES where the world is going. You have zero interest in changing where things are going, you just want the satisfaction of saying “I told you so”.
Well, guess what. Everyone else already knows everything you do. The volunteers are systemd aren’t going go to jail for you. They haven’t implemented age verification yet (no, an optional field in a schema is nothing close to verification) because they haven’t been forced to yet. If laws pass such that they have to add it or go to jail, yes they’ll implement it.
And when that happens, it will be because people like you took the effort to divide us instead of presenting a unified front against the corporations that are lobbying to take away our privacy.
But you won’t care about the last part, because you’ll be feeling too smug from “calling it”.
Hehe. The people who ignored systemd are the same people who don’t think any of this is a problem. The kind of people who can’t understand that you have to fight this kind of bullshit anytime it pops up or it eventually wins.
It just won.
I’m still trying to figure out how systemd has anything to do with this. Any configurable level user database could have implemented this.
/etc/passwdhas your “Real Name” in it as well. Finger protocol could have been selected to expose this. Literally there’s dozens of different places the age thing could have been implemented. The maintainers of systemd decided to be the first. Hell, MidnightBSD just added a daemon to implement it.Likewise if you’re informed enough you also know there’s a flag to explicitly block it and ways to patch it out. While I’m typically a Slackware and sysvinit type of person, there’s nothing unique about systemd that enabled the shitty law California passed. And fi you really care about privacy, how about less gloat and more information about ways around it, like this fork.
You’ll go a lot further educating folks how to get around the things you perceive as bad rather than whatever your original comment was. The entire point is to get people … on your side.
That the developers chose to add it at the same time as all the age verification stuff was starting is too much of a coincidence. It shows that some developers in important roles will go along with age verification. The systemd thing can be argued the way that it has been but it’s the beginning of the slippery slope
Exactly. The point is not the technical details of the implementation. The point is that their act of capitulation endorsed the concept.
As Free Software developers, they had an ethical obligation to resist and they didn’t.
It’d be weird if they added it before the laws were passed, but not that strange to implement it afterwards, but before the deadline.
People already choose a side. I don’t care to change peoples minds, just mock the morons.
i guarantee you the lawmakers who pass this kind of awful law have no idea what systemd even is or what it does
blaming it (or “systemd simps”) for this is a colossal waste of time. the surveillance society has been progressively installed in the imperial core ever since 9/11, age verification and what’s it turning into is a consequence of this, and systemd adding an age field is a consequence of that.
blaming systemd for this shit, even in part, is so bafflingly silly, such a ridiculous example of swapping cause and effect that i can’t imagine you’re doing it sincerely but apparently people agree with this???
that’s like blaming the small creek in your garden for the existence of the raging river upstream. idk.
I’m blaming the PEOPLE who say “no biggie, just a number” who can’t seem to get it through their thick, dumb, argumentative skulls that these kind of things ALWAYS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION lead to loss of privacy and more authoritarian laws.
There’s a big picture. Stop arguing the tiny points with me and SEE IT.
You’re shooting the messenger. Meta and others are lobbying governments hard for this. They’re the ones causing you to lose your privacy. Not the volunteers that maintain systemd.
Then those volunteers can refuse. But they won’t, because they agree with this direction.
It’s plain as day. You’ll agree with me in a few years.
And you can go contact your local/state/federal government representatives (I mean actually call, or go to town halls). But you won’t, because hating on systemd is more important to you than your privacy.
It’s as plain as day. You’ll agree with me in a few years.
Lmfao, you think contacting reps is a thing that works in 2026? You must be over 60, right? With no clue where the world is going… or, you LOVE where the world is going… that’s probably more accurate.
No, it’s pretty clear that you’re the one that LOVES where the world is going. You have zero interest in changing where things are going, you just want the satisfaction of saying “I told you so”.
Well, guess what. Everyone else already knows everything you do. The volunteers are systemd aren’t going go to jail for you. They haven’t implemented age verification yet (no, an optional field in a schema is nothing close to verification) because they haven’t been forced to yet. If laws pass such that they have to add it or go to jail, yes they’ll implement it.
And when that happens, it will be because people like you took the effort to divide us instead of presenting a unified front against the corporations that are lobbying to take away our privacy.
But you won’t care about the last part, because you’ll be feeling too smug from “calling it”.
lol. No, you
No.
i agree, that’s why i think talking about systemd here (and arguing wether they want to implement this or not) is a massive distraction
anyways i’m gonna practice what i preach and stop talking about systemd now, enough bytes of online traffic have been spent on this
Thank you for being a voice of reason
It was obvious from the start that enabling DRM and surveillance was the point of systemd all along.