• stoly@lemmy.world
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    Things like:

    Democrats are really like the center right in Europe.

    That Arabs are semites.

    That I liked the ideas of communism but don’t believe that it has succeeded yet because the average person is not ready for it.

    Those things caused endless rage and personal attacks.

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      “Democrats are really like the center right in Europe.”

      But they are lol.

      The Arabs as semites thing is weird, while yes if you use a definition of semitism from a century ago and make technical arguments sure you can logic yourself there, but that’s not how language works. When someone says antisemitism, they’re specifically referring to bigotry against jews. It’s like all the debates about whether hotdogs are sandwiches, if sushi is a type of taco, etc. If you say “antisemitism” or sandwich or taco, nobody is going to understand you’re talking about racism against arabs or hotdogs or sushi.

      As far as “I like the ideas of communism, but the average person isn’t ready for it”, maybe just accept that you haven’t read any works by any communists, and don’t know how AES states work, like 99% of westerners instead of opining on a subject your understanding of comes entirely from adversarial sources. It’s not even wrong, it’s just indicating that you’re unfamiliar with the subject.

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        You’ve demonstrated my point perfectly. Those were exactly the personal attacks. Amazingly, I couldn’t even reference the topic without you needing to make it personal.

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            And if you weren’t so toxic, I wouldn’t have blocked you just now. Grow up. Learn some empathy and to be comfortable around competing viewpoints.

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              Nobody needs to be comfortable around people who take offense to being alerted they’re carrying water for antisemites. But some people would rather create an echo chamber than accept even the mildest criticism of the things they say I guess.