Assuming there would be a middle class and we didn’t destroy ourselves or ended up in a dystopia.
Why would anyone want to go to Mars? Maybe 2000 years from now, after we’ve perhaps terraformed it. Until then, Mars is hell.
The best planet for any species is the planet they evolved on. We’re a perfect match for Earth. We should stay on Earth until we develop the ability to terraform, or travel to another planet nearly identical to Earth.
Also, if we fuck up this planet to the point we can no longer survive here, then we should certainly not go out and fuck up another planet.
We won’t ever get the months off
Aside from scientific research (which can be mostly or entirely done remotely by machines), there is exceedingly little reason to inhabit Mars, or any other planet for that matter.
There are sociopolitical implications of extraterrestrial missions (think: space race), but in terms of human habitation at scale, what would be the point? In science fiction, there is usually a major impetus: the earth is dying, the earth was stolen by aliens, etc etc. In these cases, though, the fiction part handles most of the stuff that would be hardest in real life.
From a practical standpoint, anything that can be done on Mars can be done for mere fractions of the resources here on Earth. At some point, it just comes down to the economics. Even if there were major issues with pollution or resources shifting the planet towards uninhabitability, fixing or mitigating those problems is likely to use orders of magnitude fewer resources than going to Mars. If such problems were beyond fixing, it wouldn’t mean Mars gets cheaper. It would mean humans go extinct.
Now, there are charlatans who will say we absolutely need to inhabit Mars and will give you a barrage of tenuous reasons. Musk comes to mind. Usually this is done to drive investment in companies or technologies which have been nudged into seeming Mars-adjacent, but at the end of the day, they’re just raising funds for regular rich people stuff here on Earth.
Never because there will be no middle class within a couple of years
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Fuck mars.
I dont think I have the necessary equipment for it
Hahaha
Why would they ever need to ship corpses that far?
Professionally (like Apollo and Artemis)? Possibly within this century. And the first person setting foot on Mars will likely be a middle-class professional astronaut like Armstrong or Aldrin.
Privately? It’s going to be a while. Middle class people in any country still can’t even go to low Earth orbit, let alone the Moon or Mars.
Never. I don’t think large-scale habitation of Mars or any other planets will ever happen.
I sure as fuck hope not. I am unapologetically opposed to any and all space colonization.
Even if we were to establish a permanent largish base, they would be specialists only. It will always be expensive to get there and it’s always a long term stay in an expensive habitat with strict rules that someone has to pay for.
While I like the realism of The Expanse, I just don’t see the existence of a non-terrestrial lower class or even middle class: what could they possibly due to pay for any possible living costs. I do hope we’ll develop permanent bases throughout the solar system but it will be a few specialists and lots of robotics. Nothing else makes sense
The only sensible answer.
Even if we discovered unobtainium there, robots would do the mining.
I read A City On Mars and came away convinced that questions like this one are pretty silly.
Show us a Las Vegas that thrives on its recycled water alone. Show us an airtight building, made of materials that can be recycled into new building parts. Show us a self-contained arcology in Antarctica that’s so appealing, ordinary families dream of moving there to raise their kids.
Then we can talk about Mars.
When the rich billionaire fuckers who will have moved there need someone to clean their martian mansions or mow their space lawn.
I love mars and would like to go there. But not this way. Billionaires ruin everything :(
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Just sand and rocks, nothing else not even sound
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Do you?
Since when has wanting to visit another world become odd?
Otherwise, come to Dasht-e Lut, it will save you a trip of several months, you will immediately stand with your feet back on the planet earth.
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Why would they want to?
Even in a best case scenario the only thing to do on Mars is to sit inside some kind of bio-dome drinking recycled urine hoping that the destillation process didn’t remove all of the alcohol from yesterday’s batch.
We’re at a point where people can visit Antarctica for the price of a used car and it is likely that price will drop in the future as development outside of science starts occurring. Antarctica is a cold desolate continent where you’re either inside or wearing specialty survival gear.
I first saw that about 20 years ago and it was mighty tempting. Sometimes I regret not going for it
80% of earth’s surface is still uninhabited. All of that (including the seabed) is vastly better suited to human settlement than Mars, and it’s right here.
There simply isn’t a reason to settle Mars at scale right now.
Once the oceans, the Sahara and Antarctica are full of overpopulated cities, we’re growing our food in low earth orbit and are desalinating oceans for drinking water, it might look different.
But I don’t think we’ll make it to that kind of population before we commit collective suicide.the billionaires will need a slave class so probably as soon as going to mars is viable at all. Id think an earth middle class is a martian slave class
