I proposed this project to improve on Radicle’s p2p model by using Tor for universal, straightforward seeding of git repos.
Original discussion thread - https://bounties.monero.social/posts/207/
One of the project’s git repos linked in that thread - https://radicle.network/nodes/iris.radicle.network/rad:z2ydYmUCJvDfNFTVTpEbQmm55EPt1/history
Project website - https://cradicle.xyz/
The dev who took the project also expanded it into a project to reimplement Radicle in C.
Since I’m not a coder and I don’t have any git repos of my own, I can only test from the viewpoint of an average layman using the GUI app to seed repos.
It’s impossible for me to properly gauge how the project is progressing without engagement from coders who try using it for their git repos.
If the project doesn’t currently interest you, your suggestions on how to start getting users on board would also be welcome.
Edit - bear in mind that because decentralized discussion platforms like this are currently quite broken, there are comments showing up in the thread when I’m not signed in that don’t show up for me when I’m signed in. Here’s a screenshot of all the comments showing up for me right now where I’m signed in and able to reply, as of UNIX time 1779670288
I’d encourage discussion of this project moreso on nostr (equally broken but my preferred platform) or the discussion thread linked above (seemingly more functional)
Most tor peers are not relays. So no, tor’s network capacity doesn’t auto-scale with more users, even when you’re sticking to hidden services.
And you didn’t argue for anonymity from the start. And anonymity is a BIG argument, with bigger design implications than you think.
Original Freenet (now called Hyphanet) predates both bittorrent and tor. And it’s one early example (and not the only one btw) of how you properly combine anonymous storage with anonymous transport (content addressing too, but that’s more of a jibe against the IPFS meme). It’s also (relatively) slow, and that’s actually intentional, at least in part, because speed can hurt your anonymity (the details are too technical, and that’s not the place to delve into them).
Bittorrent didn’t lack (native) anonymity because the idea/tech was impossible to imagine. Anonymity didn’t come into the picture because availability and speed were the priorities. The protocol didn’t have encryption from the start either (or sub-piece downloading, or DHT, or PEX, or udp trackers, or uTP transport, but I digress).
Edit - I’ll leave my original reply crossed out, but it doesn’t feel like a good reply to me and I think sometimes I don’t know how to properly respond to people these days.
Stop with the gish gallops.I should not need to address this many points because you keep pulling random nonsense out of nowhere. Look how fucking long this list of bullet points is just for one reply. Do some amount of double-checking your own thoughts before making me think through every single thought that pops into your head.You’re incorrect on your first point. Non-relay “peers” don’t stop Tor from scaling.When you say “from the start” it seems to imply I started “arguing for anonymity” at some point. I didn’t. This is an electronic network.Instead of explaining how hyphanet is supposed to be better than Tor for p2p git repos, you kept dwelling on conflating “privacy” with something users can get from a widespread software network on today’s hardware.Tor being “slow” is “intentional” for the same reason, I don’t get what makes you think that’s groundbreaking.What’s not the place to delve into what?This pattern keeps showing up: the part about BitTorrent seems like you’re conflating “anonymity” with something users can get out of a network like this, and not actually getting to whatever your point is about BitTorrent.