I can’t speak for all of Lemmy, but I am against the Catholic Church for a number of reasons. They hid child abuse for decades (centuries?) by shuffling around the offenders, essentially protecting them from any consequences. They accept donations with the explicit stated reason to perform charitable acts, but the percentage they actually spend on charity is so small it would be illegal in a lot of places if an actual non-profit did it. They hold back science. Though it’s not a requirement, many practice circumcision, which is essentially mutilating a child. I could probably keep going, but that’s enough.
Whether one thinks the church holds back science is mostly a matter of opinion. It seemed like you were asking for opinions, so I offered mine. If you were looking to debate, I’d maybe reword your original post so you don’t come across as sea lioning. The relationship between the church and science is complex, and to me, the bad outweighs the good.
well, depends on what you count as “charity”. They need to pay for the food of the charity workers, their housing, etc and actual charity, which is usually not logged or kept track of that much, no one notes down a starving childs name before giving him bread to eat
Here’s an Irish Mayor recounting how Catholic priests raped and beat him repeatedly as a child, and how the catholic church of Rome sent out a priest during the investigation into the rapes just in an effort to discredit him and call him a liar.
I can’t speak for all of Lemmy, but I am against the Catholic Church for a number of reasons. They hid child abuse for decades (centuries?) by shuffling around the offenders, essentially protecting them from any consequences. They accept donations with the explicit stated reason to perform charitable acts, but the percentage they actually spend on charity is so small it would be illegal in a lot of places if an actual non-profit did it. They hold back science. Though it’s not a requirement, many practice circumcision, which is essentially mutilating a child. I could probably keep going, but that’s enough.
they do not hold back science at all they do MULTIPLE charities in foreign countries, I have seen them with my very own eyes
and the shuffling around is at a diocesan level in the US, not the vatican
I didn’t say they don’t do charity, I said the percentage of their donations they actually spend on charity would be criminal for a non-profit.
The child abuse and coverup problem is absolutely not limited to the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
Whether one thinks the church holds back science is mostly a matter of opinion. It seemed like you were asking for opinions, so I offered mine. If you were looking to debate, I’d maybe reword your original post so you don’t come across as sea lioning. The relationship between the church and science is complex, and to me, the bad outweighs the good.
well, depends on what you count as “charity”. They need to pay for the food of the charity workers, their housing, etc and actual charity, which is usually not logged or kept track of that much, no one notes down a starving childs name before giving him bread to eat
Here’s an Irish Mayor recounting how Catholic priests raped and beat him repeatedly as a child, and how the catholic church of Rome sent out a priest during the investigation into the rapes just in an effort to discredit him and call him a liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq-BB_aZUVI
can you give me the timestamp when he says the catholic church sent a priest to silence him?
It’s a short video, and I found his speech pretty moving, I’d recommend watching it in its entirety.
At this point, I am 100% positive you are sea lioning. Just to let you know, you’re not very good at it.
Ooooh… multiple charities… how generous!!!
The catholic church is only estimated to be worth $2.5 trillion (and they have their own country).
To put that in perspective, that’s enough money to spend $1 every second for ~79000 years.
source? and it gives out a BUNCH of money