seen a bunch of people just hating on the Catholic church and even catholics for no logical reason at all

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    I mean if a holy item suddenly starts growing human cardiac tissue, its a miracle and it was tested, and its human cardiac tissue with the WBCs still alive, meaning its not from.a cadaver

    and if testing things isnt science, what is? science by definition is using the scientific method to prove or disprove something

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      It hasn’t been shown that that’s what happened though. What has been shown is that someone had a sample of something.

      And even if a thing grew human tissue, that’s proof of that thing growing human tissue. It takes a LOT more to prove a deity exists.

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        the host grew ALIVE HUMAN Cardiac Tissue

        that is literallly scientifically impossible unless…

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          It has not been shown that a host grew tissue, it has been shown that somebody had a sample of human tissue.

          You may not have seen my added second paragraph (apologies for editing that in): even if a host grew human tissue, that’s highly unusual but not proof of a deity.

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            Yes, a holy item proclaimed to the be the Body of Christ grows living heart tissue and its not enough proof?

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              No. If you can prove that’s what happened, you’ve proven that it has happened. You haven’t shown that it was caused by a deity. The fact that humans have proclaimed this object to be “the Body of Christ” is not proof.

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                  I honestly don’t know what could make me believe in a claim as extraordinary as “the god as described by the Christian Bible (or any other religion’s scripture) exists” but from all I know about this supposed entity, this god would know what would convince me and would have no issue making it absolutely obvious and inevitable to me.

                  Parlour tricks like having blood grow on hosts is not it.

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                    God has NEVER peformed a SINGLE miracle so you may believe, only when his followers and companions are in grave need, has he performed a miracle. God cannot convice you if you put your fingers In your ears and go lalalalalalala