Replace capitalism is misleading tbh
Don’t get me wrong I want them to win. I’d rather have them over Republicans or establishment Dems but these guys don’t want to get rid of capitalism they just want to regulate it and build a stronger welfare state on top.
Why do Republicans insist on making DSA sound so fucking cool?
I came into the comments to see if this was satire. That’s a fucking great ad for DSA.
“The children these days are still afraid of the communism, yeah? Just paint them as commies, that’ll solve 'em.”
The majority of people are afraid of things they are told to be afraid of. Education dispels the fear. That’s why the GOP loves the poorly educated.
Saw an attack ad against Abdul here in MI yesterday, that honestly made me want to vote even more for him by pointing out how ‘dangerous’ he is to establishment.
ah yes let’s just look at that record of socialist wins when they’re not masquerading as regular dems
oh is a big fat zero
that’s the real threat of a good time we’re looking forward to
lol there’s been a couple of great interviews with the leaders of the DSA attempting to explain their policies
“oh no we don’t mean that we mean, err something, err, whatever i can make up right now”
at least try to make the policies on your website make some sense so your people don’t look like clowns when asked about them
I think DSA spokespersons candidates like Mamdani have actually done a wonderful job at explaining their policies, idk what you’re on about.
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Even for people that think that they are against democratic socialism, there’s no way they read this and think that’s a bad thing. This reads like something that’s used to promote DSA rather than fear monger. It’s out of character for Republicans to slander something so softly without any sort of hate rhetoric or other blasphemy.
Really, who can read this and say, yea, I want the power to stay with the wealthy and not be with the people other than wealthy people? I would have guessed this were satire if I just saw it in passing.
Maybe they’re actually trying to boost it because they think it will create a civil war among democrats? The same way dems boosted Trump over previous conservatives.
Oh man, I hope they do the hell out of this.
Feel free to listen to their Fox News attacks on AOC. Their audience has been trained to automatically hate her and anything she does, so they can present her platform straightforwardly and without fear of losing their audience.
Hassan Piker is another guy that often gets criti-praised.
The details are academic unless we can get them in power. One step at a time. We all need to pull together.
I have no idea why they just don’t call themselves ‘FDR Democrats.’
If you use the term ‘Socialist’ you give the GOP an easy way to attack. “Socialist? You mean like North Korea?”
Because it doesn’t matter. They’ll just call you commies anyway. They even call neolibs commies. Words don’t mean anything to these people and the goal is the same regardless of what you call it. They don’t want us taking their power away from them. They’ll do whatever they need to do to stop that.
First off, FDR’s New Deal was notorious for excluding non-white folks, and even gave rise to the racist practice of redlining. As such, this name would be a total non-starter in DSA circles.
But yes, I have also wondered whether a different name would be better at attracting new adherents to the cause. My thought was perhaps ‘Social Democrats’, since 1) most DSA electeds platform on soc dem policies, and 2) it would avoid the scary ‘s’ word altogether.
However, I raised this in an online discussion with a DSA member the other day and he said that social democracy is basically the foundation that the future transition to socialism builds off from. So it wouldn’t make sense to call themselves something else because a socialist replacement of capitalism through democratic means remains their ultimate goal.
“…replace capitalism with democratic socialism…”
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Well, here’s my take: I don’t know for 100% sure exactly what the US looks like if all the DSA goals are met. But I know what it looks like now, and I know that at least MOST of what they’re proposing sounds pretty damned useful.
If DSA can win, I suspect some of the more fringe stuff might not make it as-is. But the things most people actually support - wealth equality, social safety nets, universal healthcare, livable wages and mayve even universal income… we can agree on enough basics that I feel confident we can work out the rest.
Yes
Yes! Yes! A million times yes!
Anyone thinking this is real (“dOnt TheaTeN mE wiTh a gOOd tIMe”, “They’re trying to scaremonger”) is a fucking moron. Republicans are evil and often stupid, but not stupid enough to word an ad like that. They’re well aware that “corporations and wealthy owners” has a negative connotation and “workers and the public” has a positive one. Please be more skeptical.
Yeah it’s highly satirical, but I don’t doubt some of MAGA will think it legit. How they react though…
You heard Mike Johnson campaigning for the DSA in front of the whole country, right? Using scary Boogeyman language to describe perfectly reasonable and honorable things?
No, I didn’t hear that. Did he try to spin it in his favor with his word choice? Because that would be the opposite of what this post is doing.
No, he literally spelled out their platform, eXcEpT HE juSt pREtenDeD iT sOUnDEd sPpPpooOoOooOOky!
Yes, but message is too stuffy. Just say,
“Billionaires, who are predators, stole the world. They made life terrible for everyone without a private jet and now we want to take it back for all of you, because we are also you.”
Tineye only reveals a couple of hits on imagur. This isn’t an official image coming from the Republican party, but a mock-up done privately.
If this is real, then its the best advertisement the DSA could have
Why is there a republican logo on this?
Theyre trying to fearmonger. Badly but theyre trying to.
because it’s an obvious fake
I know a lot of conservatives because I work at a national company and have to deal with these cucks. But this message would absolutely align with them and make them pro Democratic socialists.
They aren’t friends with billionaires. They’re complaining about gas prices and food prices like all of us. They are sick of our taxes going to war.
I may get downvoted to hell for this, but I don’t think it’s a good idea for candidates to keep identifying as Democratic Socialists. Why not focus on the actual issues you support rather than this label?
As far as issues are concerned, I’d be interested to see how, for example, James Talarico stands up next to someone identifying as DSA. Talarico’s positions seem right in line, but he’s not directly associating himself at all with the term socialism. As much as I don’t want it to be the case, the word socialism has been poisoned for a large segment of American society after decades of propaganda
DSA can exist in the form it does because there are no qualifications to be a Democrat, Trump can call himself a Democrat and run in the primary if he wants. Democrats are full of people who “support issues” and then won’t do shit if you vote for them.
That’s not how DSA works, you can’t just identify as DSA, it’s an organization with actual discipline and membership criteria. Zohran Mamdani had to do job interviews with a DSA committee to see if he’d be a good mayor before he could be a DSA candidate. And if he starts sucking the DSA can and has kicked politicians out. So for example Graham Planter: positions maybe seemed right, not DSA, wouldn’t have gotten through the DSA process. It’s a quality control label that’s actually backed up by something.
That’s good info. Maybe they should rebrand themselves. Leftists suck at branding, but branding is vital to winning elections
Several states have Working Families Party. IMO a better name, no mention of socialism (even though they usually endorse progressive or socialist candidates) and in some states (e.g. New York) they are legally a party, so they get their own column in the ballot on state and local level (alongside Democratic and Republican parties). DSA is not legally a party afaik.
When WFP is legally the same as Democrats they have the same quality control problem but worse, random MAGA guys can show up with $10k and pay somebody to collect enough signatures to legally make themselves the Working Families candidate without the party knowing it’s happening until it’s too late.
poisoned for a large segment of American society after decades of propaganda
yeah but its not working anymore. that was back in the days when information access was fully controlled by state. now with internet and thousands of talking heads its not possible to control it like that
It’s changing for certain, but there is still a trained negative response in many Americans.
From my perspective, its not as strong, especially among younger people, but it’s still there.
The Internet was a tool for the democratization of information. But with the centralization of platforms, targeted media, and billionaires taking over social media, the Internet is quickly becoming the problem. Propaganda is now personalized and refined to be as effective as possible for each individual.
I think Democratic Socialists should identify as the “Make your children trans, and Satanize them” party, just to fuck with them.
libs and liberals are slurs for the same demographics that communism and socialism are.
They already believe if you fail to vote R, you’re effeminate and a traitor to the US.
And every day FOX News pumps them full of fear and hate and teaches them crime is not what you did, but who you are and what you think.
So how the heck do you think we’re going to reach them by shifting to left-wing dog whistles?
