• HelloRoot@lemy.lol
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    Of course you have to pay

    and that is my point.

    At the beginning there was the metaphor of being a landlord. Depending on your location in the world, you can buy land, pay nothing monthly and own and use it for ever.

    There is basically no way to do that with a server. But while yall were being obtuse about my point that one needs to “pay rent” for an internet connection. I actually found something interesting that might be a way:

    SIMO Solis Lite Mobile WLAN Router - 100$ one time purchase price. And they claim:

    Includes 1GB of free global data volume per month, for the lifetime of the device

    Of course that only works as long as the company exists and is profitable or whatever they mean by “lifetime of the device” - they could literally build in a fuse that pops after 5 years.

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      Depending on your location in the world, you can buy land, pay nothing monthly and own and use it for ever.

      what the fuck guys, why is anyone paying council rates or land tax when there is any free land left out there. I’ll run the network cables; let’s fuckin’ go.

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        Places without a property tax:

        Lichtenstein, Monaco, Cook Islands, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands.


        If you want specifically “free land”:

        Not a lot of people want to live there.

        You can go to the bumfuck north in russia and nobody will come check whether you’ve built a house in the woods or not. In general, extremely rural places with weak law enforcement will work, albeit being technically illegal.

        There are tribal lands in africa (and probably other tribal areas in latin america) that will accept you and you can build your own hut in their village. There are a couple of historic records of people doing that, even in modern times.

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      yall were being obtuse about my point that one needs to “pay rent” for an internet connection

      No, it was obviously clear to most of us the whole time that you can pay an ISP to get internet connection, and that that necessarily includes some kind of IP address since the service wouldn’t work without it. Once you have subscribed to a provider’s service, some offer a static IP as a paid add-on.

      SIMO Solis Lite Mobile WLAN Router - 100$ one time purchase price. And they claim: Includes 1GB of free global data volume per month, for the lifetime of the device

      I’m not sure what you’re on about now. You’re still paying rent (though up-front instead of monthly or quarterly), and some IP address is still necessarily included within the price. How is that different to you, other than the fact that you don’t know when it expires?

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        You’re still paying rent (though up-front instead of monthly or quarterly

        thats like saying buying a house is paying a lifetime of rent upfront. It’s true in some sense, but a pretty weird thing to claim.

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          Buying and owning something like a house on a piece of land, though, is very different to paying for a service with artificially limited monthly usage, a short limited lifetime and probably no repairability once it for some reason “stops working”.

          However, in this specific case of a house, you will probably still be forced by some state or another to continuously pay property taxes etc while owning it, but blame them for that – it’s not the house or the property’s fault. They’ll also take a cut whenever you buy your bread (unless your friend is a baker) and every single time you pay your monthly/quarterly/lifetime subscription to some ISP.

          Let’s not dig much deeper than this, though, since this is turning into a yet another discussion about rulers, taxes etc, which is interesting enough, surely, but I’d rather discuss it with someone else, to be honest. All I wanted was to let you know that you surely have an IP address if you’re connected to the internet, even without paying extra for a static one, in case you didn’t know that. Now we’re here, and your lifetime subscription to my limited comments service is just about to expire…