Facebook = the old bar that pretty much everybody used to go to, you know the one where the bar person tells everybody your business and there is always someone trying to sell you stuff…
Mastodon is that new place in town, but most people don’t go really. It’s cheap, nobody tells you what to do but most fo your mates still don’t go there…
X is that club that’s loud, people shouting all the time, trying to get your attention. It’s where you go if you want a wild night and break a few rules

The issue with Mastodon, and pretty much most of the fediverse is that the non techy people do NOT want to choose a server, they just want something to work…
Once you throw in a lot of the positives us people see, it turns it into a negative for them, they have no need or want for decentralisation and they simply don’t sign up.

but it the most well known…

of course… but plenty are. When you see kids at school saying they want to be content creators as a job you know it is only going to get worse. I never said it was right or wrong but it is exactly what it is for a large percentage of people. Also can’t get past the fact that like googling something, watching a video on youtube is literally in peoples vocabulary

but after youtube has taken it’s cut and share of the creators there isn’t much left. This is the chicken and egg situation

you can’t really… being federated and no ads kinda ruins that idea as it is hated by many

I have to say I think Peertube itself is good, but the content still isn’t there yet. Of course we all know that’s because there isn’t cash to be made on Peertube

There is something in that, plus the internet in general seems to be getting dumbed down a lot. Fedi also seems very much a place full of extreme views which for a lot of people is just a turn off. As a bloke seeing loads of content that is obviously sexual is also something I thought we’d seen the last of…

There is something in that, plus the internet in general seems to be getting dumbed down a lot. Fedi also seems very much a place full of extreme views which for a lot of people is just a turn off. As a bloke seeing loads of content that is obviously sexual is also something I thought we’d seen the last of…

oh and to add - I know plenty of people who have never used the internet EVER

Hey I know… but it is what it is… I know people who literally have no reason to use emails for example, have never left their home town

most of those I talk to struggle with emails to be fair… we are talking about the non techy people, I feel that is the real reason. Nothing I have seen about the fediverse helps displace the feeling you need to be more techy to use it

nope they have plenty of UK focused things. Run by a US corp of course, but plenty of local content. I welcome the debate, but for the majority of people not in the fediverse ecosystem, the numbers just look awful and that is a massive reason they don’t either look here, or stay. Herd mentality is strong. Most of them are in no way shape or form techy either

It doesn’t, but stalling is different than just sitting roughly the same. I am talking about my experience, with my peers and clients… most of whom have just upped and left

All the meta products, reddit, old fashioned forums… plenty of things. Discourse (pah) tik tok. Different but have way more users. I’m genuinely curious how they get so little traffic in this day and age against other methods. And yes, I know I’m asking on Lemmy, but I’m new here, and I still cannot fathom why they are so quiet

For me and the clients and fwiends I talk to the issue with the fediverse for them is the decentralised nature. Most of them are NOT tech inclined and the suggestion that they would have to choose a server and that choice will influence the experience is a deal breaker - pure and simple. To follow up then if they do join, the sheer lack of numbers baffles them and they quit

Nope… us Brits are a strange lot. Heck it is why I asked the q to start with because brits ARE so strange

again - no bias but that seems tiny compared to other “things”

Aye it is… but 400 users seems really small compared to others

I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to “american” for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I’m in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)