Dark Arc

I’m in my own house, notice the @social.packetlosss.gg; our “houses” are just talking and that continued conversation is subject to ruud’s and I’s discretion. The way federation works, really nobody “owns” the content, there’s just an agreement on what the primary copy is. There’s no support for this in the software currently, but you could conceptually change which server is the primary copy at any time. The protocol and to some extent the content on it exist in an intangible space.

IMO all Reddit did was strengthen their legal argument; they arguably already had the right to make a “book of reddit poems.” They just wanted to stack the deck on their side. Arguably you have the right to make a book of poems on Reddit.

Yeah, I think the big selling point for me is not the privacy on Lemmy, but control of conversation.

The law is largely down to who argues better in court. There is precedent for reduced rights in public spaces. e.g. if you go into the town square and talk to someone and it’s caught on the camera of the mother a park bench away that’s recording her child … that’s not an illegal recording and she has the copyright on said recording. You have no legal right to ask the mother to delete the recording or delete your audio from the recording, even in a two party consent space because you have no right to privacy in a public setting like that.

Similarly, when you post on Lemmy … it’s kind of good faith that if you delete something it actually gets deleted from the platform across all instances and that it’s not just visibility deleted but deleted from the databases under the hood.

You do “own your content” but it’s pretty meaningless ownership.

Yeah but there is a FOSS nature about it. At least ANYONE can do whatever they want with the comments and posts I make public instead of just whichever company pays reddit for API access.

I mean… True; it’s just I wouldn’t characterize Lemmy as superior on privacy. Ideally we’d figure out a way to fix that, but I’m not sure we can really.

And reddit has some legal jargon about co-owning the copyright to whatever you post over there but lemmy doesn’t so you technically have more protection here to your own intellectual property.

This I’m not so sure about. You aren’t handing over ownership rights when you sign up for most (any?) instance, but your ownership right is effectively null and void.

IANAL but arguably in a US court (at least) since Lemmy is effectively a true public place, you effectively lose the right to tell other people what they can do with your interactions.

And privacy is a whole different can of worms as I don’t think ruud is harvesting telemetry to sell to advertisers and whatnot.

That part is arguably true. It is harder to tie this data back to a particular user for the purposes of selling to advertisers.

No it wouldn’t. People need to understand that open source provides 0 security against intentional abuses when there’s a networking layer involved.

I could be running an analysis on the data your instance handed to my instance just like Reddit is … and you would have absolutely no way of knowing.

People don’t value their privacy…

Honestly Lemmy is not a great platform for privacy either. Lots of your data is federated to other servers that can do whatever they want with it.

Yeah… Just looked over stuff and it’s pretty cringe…

Why have an account at all…?

Not really AFAIK. It’s a hard thing to create because … how do you stop people from just saying they have max levels and joining any other server with max levels (?)

You can do the private server thing but the federation of them is where things get messy because different operators could set different rates of gain on different materials and have different standards on what’s considered cheating.

If you don’t have that shared state… Arguably any game where you can host your own servers can be a federated mmo.