Weary traveler, I beseeth thee to not harken down this path.

I hear tales of dark spirits haunting those old byways. Ones of greed, with an emotionless façade, and hunger for gold from too-eager souls.

Okay, so, originally, I was going to look it up to prove you wrong, but after looking it up across multiple sources, it seems that you’re right and I’m wrong.....mostly.

How-To Geek, Proton, and CloudFlare all mirror what you say.

However, the Wikipedia page section “Definitions” does back me up somewhat. It says:

The term “end-to-end encryption” originally only meant that the communication is never decrypted during its transport from the sender to the receiver.[23] For example, around 2003, E2EE was proposed as an additional layer of encryption for GSM[24] or TETRA,[25] ... This has been standardized by SFPG for TETRA.[26] Note that in TETRA, the keys are generated by a Key Management Centre (KMC) or a Key Management Facility (KMF), not by the communicating users.[27]

Later, around 2014, the meaning of “end-to-end encryption” started to evolve when WhatsApp encrypted a portion of its network,[28] requiring that not only the communication stays encrypted during transport,[29] but also that the provider of the communication service is not able to decrypt the communications ... This new meaning is now the widely accepted one.[30]

(Relevent text is embolded.)

So, I’m not misunderstanding, just misinformed that the definition changed.

Make no mistake, of course: I do appreciate you correcting me as I hadn’t realized the definition had changed. Lol.

Indeed.

Fuck this shit

Fuck this shit

Seriously

Fuck this shit

WHAT. THE. SHIT. ಠ_ಠ

You are clearly misunderstanding me.

If the keys are stored server-side, that means it’s stored by either the “sender or recipient”. The server is among those two options.

I’d be dead.

(It is my firm opinion that I would be one of the first people killed in a zombie apocalypse.)

I mean it’s in the name. A message containing media and not text is simply not a text message. Many people use them incorrectly but it’s literally in the name.

Hey, I get it now. Lol. I was just explaining what my mindset was.

RCS is (supposedly) E2EE so keys are stored locally.

Well, you can have E2EE with keys stored server-side. It’s just kind of pointless from a security/privacy standpoint, but I’ve seen it happen.

MMS is not a text message, it’s a media message (that’s what the M stands for).

See, that’s interesting because I was always taught that “text message” is just an overarching term used to describe SMS and MMS. The notion that a text message is a synonym of SMS and only SMS is a new one to me!

Yes, RCS chats are encrypted (supposedly)

Good to know! Do you happen to know if the decryption keys are stored offline or on the carrier’s end? Because if the latter, then okay it’s more secure than SMS or MMS but only in the sense that some encryption is better than none. Lol.

I know that SMS and MMS text messages are transmitted unencrypted, but are RCS text messages different? Serious question.

I think they were just making a joke because git.gay.

As in, not as bad or weird but more making fun of the homophobic “it’s gay” argument that used to be used.

I do the same thing with my spousy occasionally. We’re gay as hell, so it’s funny as shit when I stroll by their room and just say, “Gaaaaaaaay~”. Lol.

Scream.