I’m curious about how they handle retracting the quote in an open source federated model where the behaviour of other instances can’t be ensured. Does the instance hosting the quote simply refuse to honour the quote link?

And I suppose if an instance uses a hostile workaround like simply embedding a copy, that would be seen as a bad mark against the instance which could lead to defederation?

I’m not saying it’s impossible, just interested in the specifics.

Picking MMO servers, really? Which MMO is that? I’m genuinely asking - I’ve never played many MMOs, but every one that I’ve known has had a single persistent world.

I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.

All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.

That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.

With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.

Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.

By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.

You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.

I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.

I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.

Businesses I understand because that involves listening to your tech guy and approving time for it, and businesses hate spending money, even if it wouldn’t really cost them that much in practice. They have a lot of institutional inertia.

The smaller alternatives will get bigger as the mainstream social media gets worse and worse. The job for us, in whatever way we can, is to build the alternatives and make them ready to handle the influx, and make them welcoming to new people.

Honestly, if you’re going to do both, do bluesky and mastodon. Bluesky isn’t properly decentralised the way mastodon is, but a lot of influential people are there. Also it’s way better than twitter was.