I thought this is farewell? Can’t have someone else get in the last comment? 🤡

You’re the one who thought that underwater workers were little better than common laborers.

Please don’t put words in my mouth which I never said nor implied.

Sadly this discussion was not very fruitful as you just ignored all the facts and misinterpreted a historical source to fit to your faulty analysis of what is actually happening. But I am not surprised as that is the usual state of things when you try to argue with facts and not vibes and make-believe with strangers on the internet 🤷

What even happened to group support in Mastodon? Wasn’t that promised to be nearly finished and about to be released like some years ago?

I didn’t say that it is an unskilled job. But once you have the necessary certifications (which don’t take years, although you can get additional certifications over the years while doing the job), it is a risky but not especially complex job. The payment is according: good for a job like that, but not crazy level money.

And anyways, the point was that “regular workers” jobs still exists that allow you to only work a few months a year, but they have become more rare and hard to get, partially because of bureaucratic red tape.

Its funny how you try to keep arguing when your point was entirely based on vibes and substantiated by nothing but make believe on your side (and a failure to understand basic economics and inflation).

This is taken out of context. Anyways, the Rolling Stones in the 1970ties were like Justin Biber in the 2010s. Top of the charts, but not very well liked outside a fan group that doesn’t have a lot of disposable income, so the concerts were/are priced accordingly.

Are you having trouble understanding what you read? I never claimed that the Rolling Stones were not a top act in the 1979ties 🙄

You evidently failed to understand what is described in that book 🤷

Putting historical sources into context is a skill and comparing it to today’s situation can’t be done 1:1.

And how do you know I wasn’t alive in the 1970ties?

I explained a few times now that this hasn’t changed due to the income levels, which you know is the context of this argument due to the article it was posted under.

It is very dangerous to go by vibes of what you think is “in front of you”, especially if it glorifies a past that never existed like that (and no, that book likely doesn’t describe it like that either). That is exactly how modern fascists fish for votes.

If you actually want to change something about the bad economic situation many low income families find themselves in these days you need to figure out the actual root cause and not just go by vibes.

No, you problem is that you don’t do a proper problem analysis and thus fail to understand what actually changed.

And you also seem to vastly underestimate inflation and overestimate how well such a couple was able to life in the 1970ties.

You compared $8 tickets of the same band to $150 tickets today. Obviously the people buying these might be still the same, but they are do not fall in the same age group or disposable income bracket anymore.

And as I have clearly shown you that there are more people being able to afford it these days, and ticket prices reflect that.

And even if that wasn’t the case, the problem for that hypothetical couple is that they have to spend more on rent not that their income is smaller.

Of course you can argue that it is unfair that their income didn’t increase according to the rate of GDP growth during these years, but over all they can still afford to go see that concert just like they did in the 1970ties (if they don’t live in a city with high rents).

That completely ignores my argument.

Rock and Roll music was not something well off elderly people went to concerts in the 1970ties.

Not really. They were well known, yes. But they didn’t have a well off fan base that could afford higher ticket prices and thus the tickets were priced accordingly.

The Taylor Swift example rather shows that there are more (somewhat) young people that can afford high ticket prices these days.

Also: I was extremely conservative with the inflation adjustment. You could probably equally well argue that $8 in 1970 is more like $60 today, as the basket to calculate inflation changed very unequally and services generally inflated much more than goods.

There is a huge range of drone between fpv drones and those complex loitering ammunition you mention. The ones most commonly mentioned and deployed by Ukraine against tanks, cost a few thousand at most.

That is wishful thinking.

Because neither are as effective per unit.

Well, if there is ever an equally effective (in costs and actual efficiency) counter-measure against anti-tank drones I am happy to change my opinion.

The chassis of tank models have been repurposed for other tasks, yes. That doesn’t make those armored vehicles tanks.

It is a job with a lot of bureocratic red tape, but the work they actually do does not require years of study and deep understanding of a specific subject.

They also don’t earn exceptionally well. The reason they can do that is because it is largely gig work that can be done 1-2 months a year easily.

Also you can’t compare tickets prices of a classic band that largely caters to now well off boomers with what they charged in the 1970ties.

The $8 with inflation and all that comes to approximatly $25-30 or so in 2026 dollars, which is similar to what an entry ticket to a concert of a lesser known band costs these days. And as an occasional treat that is still affordable for low income people.

Helicopters are an exceptionally bad counter example as they are uniquely vulnerable and expensive to operate and thus can only be deployed in a very limited fashion.