Don’t know about age verification, but revolut and crypto likely require manual review. I can’t imagine google relying on the same process and assuming it will help to deter malicious actors.

Yeah, how would they verify that uploaded documents are real?

Should that help people who were unfortunate to install that malware before the dev is banned? Also how exactly do they hope to identify the dev as already banned if he tries to register again?

Is there any explanation why this will be effective? Like, “if we find a malware app, we will do this and that to the author’s personal data, and it will help you in that way” etc.

Don’t feel like spending time on this anymore. To me you are not different from idiots who destroys information once they can’t sell it anymore, who sue webarchive, who calls pirated copy a lost sale, who shut down game servers etc. LLM might be worse than those but Perplexity is certainly a lesser player in the field.

Both intellectual property and real property have laws already that cover these very items.

And it causes a lot of trouble to many people and pains me specifically. Information should not be gated or owned in a way that would make it illegal for anyone to access it under proper conditions. License expiration causing digital work to die out, DRM causing software to break, idiotic license owners not providing appropriate service, etc.

Well, does a user burn up gigawatts of power, to access my site every time?

Doing a GET request doesn’t do that.

As long as it doesn’t cause problems for me, the creator and hoster of said content.

What kind of problems that would be?

Both power usage and causing problems for me.

?? How? And what?

do not want my content and services to be used by and for LLMs.

You have to agree that at one point “be used by LLM” would not be different from “be used by a user”.

which charges 8.99/month

It’s self-hosted and free.

Use the RSS feed, if you want updates.

How does that prohibit usage and processing of your info? That sounds like “I won’t be providing any comments on Lemmy website, if you want my opinion you can mail me at a@b.com”

I can just block them, via a service like Cloud Flare. Which I do.

That will never block all of them. Your info will be used without your consent and you will not feel troubled from it. So you might not feel troubled if more things do the same.

None. Unless you’re wanting to access if via an LLM. Then I want compensation for the profit driven access to my content.

What if I use my local hosted LLM? Anyway, the point is, selling text can’t work well, and you’re going to spend much more resources on collecting and summarizing data about how your text was used and how others benefited from it, in order to get compensation, than it worths.

Also, it might be the case that some information is actually worthless when compared to a service provided by things like LLM, even though they use that worthless information in the process.

I’m all for killing off LLMs, btw. Concerns of site makers who think they are being damaged by things like Perplexity are nothing compared to what LLMs do to the world. Maybe laws should instead make it illegal to waste energy. Before energy becomes the main currency.

I would imagine older versions can run properly, no? Like maybe 2007 or 2010. Later ones got too integrated with the OS which must be the main difficulty.

That all sounds very vague to me, and I don’t expect it to be captured properly by law any time soon. Being accessed for LLM? What does it mean for you and how is it different from being accessed by a user? Imagine you host a weather forecast. If that information is public, what kind of compensation do you expect from anyone or anything who accesses that data?

Is it okay for a person to access your site? Is it okay for a script written by that person to fetch data every day automatically? Would it be okay for a user to dump a page of your site with a headless browser? Would it be okay to let an LLM take a look at it to extract info required by a user? Have you heard about changedetection.io project? If some of these sound unfair to you, you might want to put a DRM on your data or something.

Would you expect a compensation from me after reading your comment?

First we complain that AI steals and trains on our data. Then we complain when it doesn’t train. Cool.

So, sue the attackers?

Also don’t forget how people like wasting resources by asking questions like “what’s the weather today”.

“I’ve found a workaround”

Workaround (according to article): “First of all, YouTube Premium”

The actual workaround (according to article): “Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome”

Seems like they are being paid by Google. Actual workaround should be to drop Chrome.