Yes I think what everyone is trying to say but can’t quite put into words is that reddit is an order of magnitude larger than lemmy like a massive big box store is an order of magnitude larger than a corner mart & cafe and yet nobody would stand in the corner mart & cafe and conclude it felt less human in comparison to the big box store because so many less people passed through its doors.

The environment of a big box store is steeped in distrust and it is a space where spontaneous interaction is codified with deep suspicion.

A local mart or cafe on the otherhand is more likely to suggest trustful grounds to interact that may provide bridges over the roaring rivers of first impression.

That is a difference that is invisible if you are primarily looking through the lens of large statistical noisey trends, but no mistake that unmistakable difference between “big box store” and “cornermart & cafe” is a multiplicative factor acting on every moment and is of the type that can nullify extreme powerbalances by making the entire paradigm that carefully precipitated it irrelevant in a flash.

Yes but add in a third Lemming and it is no longer a flamewar, it becomes a theatrical performance.

For the record was he? Or was he just making a joke that didn’t land.

That’s funny because it’s not difficult at all to build an app like this.

It is a fuckton of unpaid work, it never feels right to talk about donating their time and effort like that.

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I have been making comments and posts on lemmy with a fervor that suggests I believe I am personally the one moving the whole damn line myself up on engagement. It is a delusion, and a useful one too lol.

I have had my Mastodon account for a bit more than 6 years, it is great, it is boring, sometimes I don’t use it for a couple of months at a time, sometimes I binge on it and sometimes I have small little issues but for the most part it just works.

When people say the fediverse is too confusing I think most of the time in the specific it is good and vital feedback (please let us continue to dismantle the ways in which we participate in systems of anti-accessibility without sometimes even being aware) but sometimes I think the viewpoint might have everything backwards in the beginning assumption that this hurdle, fundamentally an issue of education, has any easy, universal, infinitely scalable genuine solution like corporate social networks attempt to convince us exists and is just around the corner.

Why are we assuming any solution that can be “growth hacked” like a factorio factory is capable of preserving the values that motivated communities to adopt those tools in the first place?

Like, maybe it can, maybe it can’t…

I think we need to educate people better that, as you humorously point out, that when we say “facebook” we are describing at least two seperate discrete things, the actual physical and legal business that we call “facebook” or “meta” and the form and format of facebook-like social media communities.

Those memes remind me I don’t actually hate myself I hate the system I am forced to interface with.

Without them I would not take more action, I would just hate myself more and be even sadder.

Which I think dansup should deserve our trust on this for quite a long time for doing. It isn’t empty promises if they already made Pixelfed and opensourced it.

Like… I suppose it could be a grift, anything could but I see no reason to question their goals or motives.

oh cool!

yo, fuck discord, this is by far the most important one to emulate for me.

I actually think the facebook format is great, and I miss it despite having NO desire to use anything meta owns.

Friendica has the unenviable position of trying to convince people what sucked about facebook was not inherent to the format of the social network. That is why the fediverse is inspiring, people make tools they connect with, and then if popularity comes, great!

I need to try it out!

This time it will be different, because… errr well it is not the same time as last time.

Bluesky has a serious marketing budget and a virtual “get out of having to back up unrealistic promises” pass for tech in interviews (everyone just accepts they are going to decentralize when it makes zero sense from a business perspective).

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn’t?

On this topic I just want to point out the microblog format with twitter even BEFORE musk bought it had gotten very cold, harsh and toxic.

As a result the most positive thing you can say about people’s feelings about microblogging is that they are bored of it (in terms of it having inspiring potential) even if they use it daily themselves and like it.

I don’t think that is fair to mastodon or microblogging, it is just how the ships happened to sink as they crashed into the reef.

I say this all to emphasize that it is ok for mastodon not to get hit by massive hypecycles. Mastodon is useful and awesome, if people see it is as boring I say let that be a compliment because that means people are beginning to slowly trust the medium again.

Twitter/musk made people REALLY sad about microblogging and it is going to take time for people to get excited about it again like they do for the 'grams and the 'toks.

Hi James Joyce here, what did you all say you were up to?

Exactly, ads (or other lucrative monetization schemes) are a form of micro-agression, you have to force them on people and that requires bottlenecks and centralized control.

Just answer me this one simple question, why would Bluesky meaningfully decentralize when that threatens all of the most lucrative funding models for their product?

More importantly why should I trust the company Bluesky just because of positive anecdotes and descriptions about employees who can be replaced with a flick of a finger?

Until they decentralize meaningfully, this is just marketing people describing phantoms in the sky.