Bold assumption that our descendants will have the kind of general education that would result in what we think of “extra homework” for “history students”. I imagine a future scholar to be like Kenneth from 30 Rock
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ODYSSEUS (V.O.) And for centuries of darkness to follow, the stories of Troy will only be sung... PENELOPE Why will the stories only be sung? ODYSSEUS Because songs will be all they have to remember those of us who could write.
All you young ones just wait until you get corrected in twenty years by someone like you because they didn’t live it and think they know more about it than you.
So… the US president was part of a child eating cult-like sex trafficking net that was actually managed by moSS*d. Countries around the world that stump into that information used it to blackmail him.
At one point, the info got partially leaked, but he was kept in power for some reason.
First: that wont ever make it to a history book
Second: i wonder how many times things like this happened… this cabt be the first one
First: that wont ever make it to a history book
It probably will, it’s too relevant to be left out. It will just not be explained in that plain language, because people care about protecting children from the raw character of historical figures.
My high school US history class spent like two weeks on the revolutionary war, half a class on everything that happened up to the civil war, two or three weeks on the civil war, half a class on the rest of the 19th century, like a week on WWII, the roaring 20’s and dusbowl 30’s got a week, and the rest of the class was World War 2, the 4 years that made up 60% of our 250 year history.
I have two hypotheses for why it was like that and they’re not mutually exclusive:
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WWII ends on a very boastful note for the USA. The defeat of not one but two objectively evil empires through both military and industrial might, that and having basically none of the fighting on our soil meant we came out of the war powerful and rich, eclipsing Great Britain as the superpower in the west. Almost immediately after that, history gets a lot less flattering.
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The boomers were in charge of setting the school curriculum circa 2002, and by their logic “Then World War 2 happened, and then I was born, and then stuff I personally remember happened, and because I personally remember it, it isn’t “history” therefore we don’t have to teach it. You learn about Upton Sinclair in history class, you learn about the Cuban Missile Crisis by watching the news, that’s just how it is.”
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As if.
They will water it down, shorten it up and place it at most on lesson on the side.
I might suggest that rather than saying people are dumb for having made certain decisions, that we should ask ourselves how the opinions that led to those decisions were formed. There are always external factors acting on and influencing our agency.
He thinks there will be a future
Students learning about the Trump era gonna think we dumb as fuck
If history is taught correctly, they will know that Americans of today are propagandized to hell by the capitalist oligarchs who are fighting tooth and nail to maintain the hierarchy. That the coercive structure of the capitalist system left people alienated and disenfranchised and largely unable to overcome the sea of misinformation designed to isolate and divide communities.
Know we are dumb as fuck, you mean
We are dumb as fuck
This helped me understand the lead up to WWII so much better.
Was it really necessary to do a practical example?
About 1/3 of us are dumb as fuck
⅔ of us are dumber as fuck
It’s going to be Germany 1933-1945 all over again, except the leader is considered even more of a clown than the first time.
Yeah, the way the history books painted Hitler was like he was a supervillain with the power of convincing people to do what he wants against their will. Now I know that’s probably not true and that the Germans were probably just dumb as fuck pieces of shit that would’ve hammered their own faces if they were told to.
There were already plenty of examples to show that making people viscerally hate an arbitrary group of people is incredibly easy. The Stanford prison experiment is so well-known because it perfectly outlines our own innate desire to fit in, even when it means becoming evil, despite how much we want to convince ourselves that we’re above it.
Depends on who writes the history books
Bold of you to assume students will learn about this in the future
Unless the republicans are able to control all the books and curriculum in schools
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bold of you to assume there will still be students, history, or future
Wasn’t history supposed to end mid 20th century?
It did, this is History 2: The Return of History
We’ll see how many primary sources even survive the following decades.
Though I don’t envy anyone who has to do history science when a large amount of primary sources are available. Imagine having to analyse Trump tweets for a paper.
We’re in the age of AI now. Are future historians going to be able to trust primary sources?
Historians aren’t supposed to trust primary sources from any time period.
I can see future students simply denying that anyone would have really voted for DJT.
“I refuse to believe that anyone was that dumb!”
Can’t really blame them, I can hardly believe it now.
Many Germans did vote for Hitler (never the absolute majority of voters, though), even though he was clearly hateful and evil and obviously making lots of false claims, and on top of that looked completely ridiculous when he was shouting and screaming in his speeches. Can’t remember seeing any German say that they don’t believe that anyone voted for the guy.
You think history students have it bad.
Imagine lawyers post-Trump. Well, according to established case law minus 2025-2029…
It’s an outrageously optimistic hope of mine that there will be any students around to study history
Guessing it will be called The Stupid Ages, or maybe The Antichrist Years, depending on who is in charge.
The Disinformation Age
The Age of Grift and Disinformation
If it’s like before, eventually it’ll be just a vague “things were bad” like the gilded age or great depression. Humans aren’t great at learning big picture things.
