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Ahmed Moor, a Palestinian American, said he would run in a primary to be the Democratic nominee in 2028
John Fetterman, the maverick Democratic senator who has provoked widespread anger by increasingly siding with Republicans, is to be challenged for his Pennsylvania seat by a democratic socialist candidate who is originally from Gaza.
Ahmed Moor, a Palestinian American, said he would run in a primary to be the Democratic nominee in 2028, when Fettermanās seat is up for re-election.
The move is the first sign of Fettermanās weakened position in the party since the Democrats won back control of the Senate in last weekās US midterm elections, when the party won at least 54 of the upper chamberās 100 seats.
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AIPAC will spend ten trillion dollars on this race. Iām looking forward to it.
āAhmed Moore did Oct 8 AND 9-11 and probably crucified Jesus!ā
āMaverick Democratā is a very odd way to spell āconservative loon.ā
For the love of fuck we just had the election. Not even settled everywhere. And now we look to the next one.
This is the way, even if exhausting for some unfortunately. As Iāve said elsewhere 2028 Democratic Primaries officially kick off the moment polls close at midterms.
For any viable challenger to an incumbent with the backing of foreign and domestic mega-donors, itās important to hit the ground running and seize on this momentum right out of the gate!
Personally, this makes me very excited!
Yes, thst what should be done
Than you OP for including Ahmed Moorās name on your post. A lot of these posts donāt include it, be sure to add Ahmed Moorās name to help with his name recognition.
Also donate/volunteer if you can:
I feel like the DSA is currently the leftās tea party and Iām all for it.
Except the Tea Party was astroturfed as fuck, by big GOP donors.
This isnāt.
I know this, because I was once a Ron Paul Republican. End the Fed, Stop the Wars, that kinda thing. They co-opted that movement, at the time.
They saw the 4chan driven āmoney bombsā timed to coincide with reporting on campaign funding level announcements, and that Paulās campaign was literally self organizingā¦ just a random organization sprung up, rented a fucking blimp, put Ron Paul ads on it, and flew it around the country.
This had nothing to do with Paulās own campaign organization.
It was literally just some guys.
The GOP saw that kind of enthusiasm and then aped it, co-opted it, re-directed it, and called that the Tea Party.
Thatās really interesting! I remember the rallies and the Glen Beck āprogressivesā panic when Obama was elected. Trash all around!
Doublepost but:
https://www.wired.com/2007/12/ron-paul-blim-1/
Yeah this was all the way back when Twitch was still Justin.tv, and I think YouTube still owned YouTube, not Google.
https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/ron-paul-blimp-charts-unprecedented-course-007245
This wasā¦ also pre-Citizens United, soā¦ basically you as a person couldnāt contribute over $250 without gasp regulatory scrutiny.
Oh how times have changed lol.
But yeah, they literally dumped tea bags over ātargetsā, from this ridiculous blimp. Thatās what caught on and then was later reappropriated as the āTea Partyā.
This would have been around the same time cable news gave us āThe Mysterious Hacker Known As 4chanā.
We had people basically photobombing pretty much just any live news cast about anything with people screaming or chanting something about Ron Paul, because cable news was barely if at all even mentioning he was even in the Republican primary.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOhRd8yUs8w
And heres Ron Paulites surrounding Sean Hannity and telling him he sucks:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p5rJI5e0jBU
Also just overwhelming state GOP conventions.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UwHXbmaA80w
ā¦ a self organizing insurgent/guerilla political campaign, that Paul himself had very little control over. We refused to be ignored.
In the end though, the GOP ratfucked us, after Romney won the nomination.
Myself, I learn more things, over time, change my views on a lot of thingsā¦ Bernie is now my guy.
The Democrats then ratfuck Bernie even harder than the Republicans ratfucked Paul.
But now, with this BluNamiā¦ maybe, maybe the will of the people can finally be enacted.
Fuck Chuck Schumer and fuck Hakeem Jefferies, and turbomegaultrafuck every MAGA fascist.
EDIT:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-pD-KCfdGKY
Oh well would you look at that, that explains a lot.
Peter Thiel, self-described āDefinitely NOT the AntiChristā played a large role in all this getting turned inside out.
Why am I not surprised?
I remember thinking at the time that Glenn Beck was just low rent, great value brand Alex Jones.
ā¦ many of my political opinions have changed since then, but not that one.
Thatās a really bad and uninformed take.
Most here understand that the Tea Party was astroturfed ā arguably the very first movement to fully take advantage of Citizens United v. FEC.
That said, I understand their sentiment.
There is a way to push the buttons of populism for good, and Democrats are doing so. Except this time, itās a genuine grassroots movement, not necessarily requiring the Epstein Class of billionaires to bankroll them.
Thatās why Iām saying itās the opposite of the tea party movement. And entire party based on manufactured lies and bankrolled by the Kochās. The entire ensamble of the āgrass roots movementā was made up by weekend warriors who could barley read let alone know what the fuck 1776 was about or whatās in the constitution. I could understand their sentiment if they said it was the opposite of what the tea party was.
Doesnāt seem that black-and-white to me. The movement was catalyzed by the likes of the Koch Brothers, but it did ultimately become somewhat self-sustaining. Tea Party did become maga after all. Both represent populist movements relative to their end of the political spectrum, which means they canāt really be opposite in this respect.
That doesnāt mean they are equidistant from truth in a false equivalence fallacy; both are wrought from a dissatisfaction with the status-quo and corruption in Washington (āDrain the Swampā). Itās just that one is Left, and one is wrong in their approach to the solutions.
Though I get that we donāt want to necessarily associate such a movement at all with the Tea Party from a marketing standpoint, as thatās often a comparison made in bad faith in corporate media.
Side note, but my what Occupy Wall Street couldāve become had it had the same sort of catalysts and party-backingā¦
Occupy could have changed the course of the world is Dems had sacked up and not been corporate shills.
The āmovementā wasnāt just catalyzed by the Kochās it was manufactured and bankrolled. It was āself sustainingā until the money ran out and Donald Trump appeared on the scene and mutated the whole thing into the murder hate treason cult that started to attract people hithrto had nothing to do with politics until the tea party turned into the kill and imprisons people I donāt like because they are different and Iām an idiot party which was really the tag line all along; violent xenophobia and racism. I remember itās beginning and transformation into maga. And throughout the entire way it has been propped up by prominent monied business leaders the entire way through. It literally shares nothing in common with the progressive movement and comparing the two as like with like is not only disingenuous but revisionist.
I was pretty involved in my local cityās protest on this and I mostly agree with respect to Occupy. I think they were so shy and naive; Obamaās tepid approval was the best they got, but even back then we know who controlled the airwaves ā especially two years post-CU decision. Democrats felt like they were in a good spot and sealed the deal for years to come and we just had to ābe patient,ā but you know how that wentā¦ Pissed me off. No use of bully pulpit to pressure from the top left right-wing media to do its thing and eviscerate the movement.
Worth noting that Trump was there since the early days of the Tea Party; I remember arguing with Tea Party members about how Trump was right about Obamaās birth certificate. He was an enormous catalyst to that conspiracy theory bullshit as well. They were always the same people sadly.
I think weāre talking past each other slightly on this. Nobody ā literally nobody ā disputes that Tea Party platform is polar-opposite to the demands of even SocDems let alone DemSocs; weāre just stating that the astroturfing worked because it tapped into a dried kindling already yearning for ignition. Catalysts aside; platform aside, both are populist movements who reshaped the broader party and suppressed moderates in their own party. Where Tea Party moved Republicans right, DSA can move Democrats Left. Thatās pretty much where the similarities begin and end Iāll agree.
I remember the correspondents dinner or whatever it was where he clowned Donald Trump. I was much much younger then but it was like gangs of suburban dads roaming around with guns and total psychopaths. I donāt know if I would call it a populist movement because the whole thing was, in my opinion, and fever backlash to a president being black. I men the party just didnāt make any fucking sense.
Worst part about Fetterman is that itās not entirely clear if his stroke made him Republican or just broke his brain enough to make him go mask off and more extreme with his ānot Republicanā actual beliefs.
For about 1.5 years after the stroke, Fettermanās voting record was one of the bluest in the senate. If anything, it was kind of weird how a guy who campaigned on being different from the usual corporate democrats toed the party line so well.
The narrative that his stroke turned hin conservative is fun, but does not hold up under scrutiny. I think AIPAC just got to him.
Nah, he was always like that. Some More News on the āswitchā (being compared to Dr Oz let him ride a progressive wave without having done anything to earn it)
I do tend to agree that he was more left before the stroke, or at least more covert, though bluest in the Senate during a period of no substantive control really doesnāt mean much. Iām the best runner when nobody else shows up to the race because thereās no reward, too.
This is the talking-point we always heard with Kamala Harris and how she was āMore progressive than Bernie Sandersā lol. Or how Sinema was progressiveā¦ Until she was actually the deciding vote on something as pivotal as gutting the filibuster.
The narrative that his stroke turned hin conservative is fun, but does not hold up under scrutiny.
Genuinely curious, why?
OMG. This would be an epic āfuck youā to AIPAC.
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Fetterman is senator of Pennsylvania.
You love to see it. Iād vote for him if I could.
Good. Quasimodo needs to go. Dumb fuck canāt be bothered to come into work and should be sent packing.
Quasimodo
Donāt do big Quas like that, he doesnāt deserve to be compared to this shit stain.
He supports a nationwide billionaire tax. Damn.
Dooooo ittttttt!!!
Man this race is going to be insane. Canāt wait for it. Iām looking forward to see who speaks out against moor so we can cancel them
What is this framing? Am I out of touch? Thereās not challenge here, Fetterman is already done. His position was weakened the moment he decided to betray his constituents. Even his own staff hate him. All he has is his current seat and when it comes to re-election heās going to bomb out regardless of who he goes up against. I think itās great that Ahmed Moor is going to run but his fight isnāt going to be with Fetterman. Thereās a small chance the establishment dems realize they need to work with the socialists to get anything done but I doubt thatāll happen so the fight will be with whomever the establishment puts in to replace Fetterman.
We understand that Fettermanās rep is over, but that isnāt the problem. His replacement by another Dem is not assured. He barely won his seat, remember? We need to replace him in the primary with a great candidate who can beat a post-Midterm Republican, who will almost certainly NOT be promoting MAGA views, thus making him a challenging candidate.
Fettermanās seat is going to be a ferocious battle.
A great candidate who can beat a post-Midterm Republican
Unfortunately, for the Democrats this means a right wing establishment Dem like Fetterman. In reality, this means a socialist who runs on working class policies.
Iām not disagreeing with you, Iām disagreeing with the framing in the article that implies Fetterman is somehow in the race (how else are you going challenge him?) when in reality he has no shot at running again.
Surely his name will be on primary ballots as the incumbent if he chooses to run again. He can decide and file as a Democrat like anybody else who can fill out a form and write a small check to the elections office.
The primary ā¦
The thing you canāt think of is the primaryā¦
You want to explain what exactly canāt I think of?
Iām disagreeing with the framing in the article that implies Fetterman is somehow in the race (how else are you going challenge him?) when in reality he has no shot at running again.
The answer to the bolded question is: he will challenge him in the Dem primary
All he has is his current seat and when it comes to re-election heās going to bomb out regardless of who he goes up against.
Just because his name will be on the ballot doesnāt mean he has a chance to win. A challenge implies a failure state. There is no challenging Fetterman because thereās no failure state to the challenge because Fetterman fails all on his own.
This past election a number of centrists vocalized such a disdain for the left that they would rather a republican win than have a progressive win.
While heās not well liked amongst his peers, Israel loves him so that might be enough to keep him in.
It will not be easy.
Whoās uncle Fester?
Holy shit, is our reality being generated by AI and/or The Onion these days?
I feel more and more like Captain Picard made the ultimate sacrifice and Q snapped his fingers, putting us back on a good timeline.
I think it depends on how you handle the helium.
