ā€œJeffries didn’t even whip the vote,ā€ one critic said about the House minority leader, who wants to be speaker. ā€œThis is why people want a stronger leader.ā€

As House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries seeks to become speaker when Democrats retake Congress in January, critics questioned his leadership Tuesday after the Republican-led lower chamber effectively blocked a bid to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth by just seven votes—an outcome that may have been averted if more Democrats showed up to vote.

The 211-204 procedural vote effectively torpedoed Congressman Thomas Massie’s attempt to impeach Hegseth by sending the outgoing Kentucky Republican’s resolution to the House Judiciary Committee, where it will likely gather dust during the remainder of the GOP-controlled congressional term.

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      So you either did nothing or picked a guy who gives Netanyahu everything he asks for 🤣. Real moral courage.

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        I don’t know why people still try to play this game. Genocide might be something you can hand wave away, and vote based on marginal data difference like it’s for a sports team, but a lot of people actually do have moral courage, AND they do more for poor disenfranchised working class Americans than democrats ever do.

        don’t even get me started on people who ONLY vote and then think their political responsibilities are done right there. You are complicit in killing innocent men women and children. You support the racist Military Industrial Complex whole heartedly. Congrats.

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          You are actively causing more deaths in Palastitine with your pretend morality. Here’s the proof: on the eve of Trump’s loss, when Dems are about to take power, he suggested we should stop giving money to Israel. But you and people like you wasted two years of funding Israel with bombs because of your ā€œmoralityā€ and what you call ā€œmarginal data differencesā€. Nothing marginal about your implicit support for funding Israel.

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            This logic makes no sense, you think I support Trump? Or other Dem politicians? I don’t understand.

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              Of course you don’t. Everyone who has spent the last 3 years stating that there is no difference (or only a small difference) between Trump and Kamala/Dems has no idea what they are talking about about has implicitly been supporting Trump, Netanyahu, and bombs dropping on Palastitine while feeling morally superior for some reason. There are obvious differences that have cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Not just Palastitine, but USAID, ect.

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                That’s a funny joke. you’re out here morally defending Dems even though in Gaza specifically Biden killed a lot more innocent people. If you mean indirect support because we’re both (presumably) American, yeah you’re right. I voted for local anti AIPAC Dems, is that what you mean by support?

                Bipartisan support of war means that defending democrats foreign policy is defending their actions in genocide. It doesn’t mean much to me, specifically, because I’m privileged as hell (off the backs of poor people in other countries but that’s a different can of worms) and I’m not enduring genocide right now.

                But if you defend democrats as being any leas complicit in Genocide then when look in the mirror you see someone who is complicit in genocide. There’s just no other way to put it unless you’re a Zionist and actually believe Jews are morally superior to everyone and deserve to do whatever they want to Palestinians with US money and protection.

                I’m not just talking marginal numbers here, I’m saying democrats (through Obama and Biden) literally set new precedents in global US domination warfare. Obamas level of drone striking literally set record numbers, within his first few years of office. Mind you, just like Trump, he ran on a platform of Anti War, the only difference with Obama is that he was believable.

                If you see me pointing out this very obvious problem as such an attack that I’m ā€œimplicitly supporting Trump and Netanyahuā€ that is so backwards. Why do you even bother trying to get certain people elected if you won’t hold them to a better standard? Is that not literally what their job is as a public servant? To serve the public?!

                Hardline Dem supporters take crazy pills sometimes to justify the obvious complacency in the party and capitalism in general, y’all can’t even let the DSA win for you because they’re too popular and even their lukewarm anti-war messaging is too scary. That’s so fucked up. Have a spine.

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                  I will 100% morally defend Democrats. The ā€œBidenā€ personally killed more Palestinians than Trump is a ridiculous argument that ignores who is actually doing to killing, how long aid has been flowing to Israel, and the start date of the conflict. No one actually believes Trump is less supportive of Netanyahu’s actions (or if he remotely cares at all). Trump just happened to be in office when war deaths were in a natural decline.

                  Deaths related to USAID alone far outweigh Palestinian dealths, and actually a direct action by the administration. Your can support a non Dem/Rep all day, but insisting they are the same is morally corrupt and implicit support for Trump’s actions including the USAID cuts.

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                    First sentence is enough, then. If you’re ok with white supremacy and genocide you’re a lost cause