What an incredibly fucked up thing to do. I’m not a vegan but I don’t see any reason why meat should be subsidized at all, given the numerous problems with both raising and consuming it.
I agree. I’m a meat eater but if the market forced me to not eat meat anymore due to ecological conditions then I wouldn’t eat meat anymore. Too bad the market only cares about sell, sell, sell. And in this world, nothing matters unless it sells.
Or, more controversally, stop paying for meat. I personally have no ethical problem with shoplifting meat. To buy meat is unethical because it supports the meat industry. To shoplift is to punish and deter those causing harm.
The only thing that stops me from shoplifting meat is I cannot be bothered to study the art of it and then take on the risks of getting caught.
Not eating it is much easier than stealing it. But I don’t have a problem with others doing it, as long as they only do it in huge evil chain stores, not small family-owned businesses
I consider vegans neutral. They neither help nor hinder the industry of animal products. I love this quote by Desmond Tutu:
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.”
I live in a country with stagnating and sinking meat consumption. The producers are definitely feeling it. Remember that in capitalism, anything but growth is a tragedy
Certainly that’s the case in the US. It would be suicide for US republicans adhere to their conservative values and drop subsidies, which would outrage all the farmers whose vote republicans rely on. (edit) So the survival of the republican party inherently forces them into hypocricy.
But why don’t the dems nix meat subsidies? No farmers vote for dems, so no loss there. But I suppose there would be enough meat-eating dems who would abandon their own party. Just like in California a politician tried to push a fuel tax and got voted out by both parties.
What an incredibly fucked up thing to do. I’m not a vegan but I don’t see any reason why meat should be subsidized at all, given the numerous problems with both raising and consuming it.
I agree. I’m a meat eater but if the market forced me to not eat meat anymore due to ecological conditions then I wouldn’t eat meat anymore. Too bad the market only cares about sell, sell, sell. And in this world, nothing matters unless it sells.
You nor anyone else don’t need to stop completely. Just reducing meat consumption already has big effects!
Or, more controversally, stop paying for meat. I personally have no ethical problem with shoplifting meat. To buy meat is unethical because it supports the meat industry. To shoplift is to punish and deter those causing harm.
The only thing that stops me from shoplifting meat is I cannot be bothered to study the art of it and then take on the risks of getting caught.
Not eating it is much easier than stealing it. But I don’t have a problem with others doing it, as long as they only do it in huge evil chain stores, not small family-owned businesses
Indeed. But also less effective.
I consider vegans neutral. They neither help nor hinder the industry of animal products. I love this quote by Desmond Tutu:
I live in a country with stagnating and sinking meat consumption. The producers are definitely feeling it. Remember that in capitalism, anything but growth is a tragedy
it pretty much guarantees conservative voting areas in many countries, which is why its subsidized, and plus the cheap labor.
Certainly that’s the case in the US. It would be suicide for US republicans adhere to their conservative values and drop subsidies, which would outrage all the farmers whose vote republicans rely on. (edit) So the survival of the republican party inherently forces them into hypocricy.
But why don’t the dems nix meat subsidies? No farmers vote for dems, so no loss there. But I suppose there would be enough meat-eating dems who would abandon their own party. Just like in California a politician tried to push a fuel tax and got voted out by both parties.
seems like farmers a evil necessities in most states.