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They dropped that for new programs years ago.
That’s a pretty dumb reason, but that’s what’s been putting me off for so long. Oh well, I’m a konvert now…
At least I know what your least favorite fighting game franchise is.
Kreet Kriter? Kuper Kmash Kros? Gnortal Gnombat?
No. It’s Kekken, of course.
i used cinnamon in 2016 (worst time i think), then i briefly used gnome in '23. i’ve been using kde since '25 and i regret i have no desire to use anything else anymore.
want a tiling wm? - just install a plugin and customize kde within 5 minutes
want to build a mediabox with a simple ui for use with a remote on a tv? - just adjust the sizes and find one of a million widgets!
do you want the ms win98 look? - it’s 3 clicks away!
i am sure other DE’s may be better for my specific usecases. but the flexibility of kde gives me good enough results within a familiar environment. i can change my whole computer experience in a few clicks and revert whenever on the same de!
change wallpaper
Well, tiling window managers exist.
I just install 1980s pong OS. Humans should have stopped at this, So much is simplit times for us yes.
Desktop environment, and OS in general is just something you eventually find one you like, and there’s no need to change. It’s GNOME for me, it just works in a way that doesn’t get on my way and that’s all it needs to be
I love Gnome. People love to hate it, but it’s workflow is SO good.
I think people just get annoyed that they can’t force it to be whatever they want it to be. Which is fine, that’s why other options exist!
But if you really go to the content-focused, workspace + keyboard shortcut flow Gnome is incredibly efficient, consistent, and stable.
Unpopular opinion #2: I love libadwaita and GTK4. Basically, I enjoy when devs are opinionated about things and build what they want to see in the world.
The adaptive part of libadwaita is really exciting for different form factors!
This guy has a preference that differs from mine! Get him! /s
Yeah idk, I tried Pop with GNOME and just wasn’t feeling it. Switched to Mint Cinnamon and it’s a little more intuitive for me. I’m just a general user, gonna game if/when costs come down enough to build a desktop to replace my 2015 laptop. By then, I’m sure another distro will be a better fit for me. There are options for a reason.
Do you have to run GNOME with PopOS? I was thinking of trying PopOS
cannot recommend pop with their new cosmic DE, it’s quite bad. looks nice at first, but the more you dive in, the more it lacks basic stuff and you start noticing soo many little bugs and annoyances. had it on my laptop for a while, eventually just installed gnome. it started crashing frequently and suddenly i could no longer start steam, so i just installed ultramarine since it has been playing nice on my desktop. and it has just worked since.
Pop now uses cosmic
mint/cinnamon was definitely the best i found until i checked out kde neon. mint still has a better package ecosystem but in neon everything feels slickly designed.
What’s the difference between plasma and neon
neon is the full kde distribution i guess, you can install standalone as its own os. plasma is just the desktop manager shell, can possibly be installed on top of other distributions. (im probably not using the correct terms.)
Oh, that makes sense. I have EndeavourOS with KDE as my desktop environment, but I’m still learning what’s plasma vs. kwin vs. sddm vs. x11…
Like I get one’s the graphical shell, one’s the window manager, one’s the desktop manager, and one’s the compositor, but what each one does and how their responsibilities differ is still kinda foggy to me.
It makes sense that neon is the distro, though. That makes sense because I saw it listed as an option when I chose Endeavour.
And I absolutely hate Gnome. But thank god we have over a dozen DEs to choose from. One of the great things about Linux is user choice.
Exactly. You can install your beloved distro with just what software you want there, because it’s your fucking device
It’s GNOME for me
Sicko
That gave me a good laugh. Gnome doesnt feel right to me at all man. To each his own.
But yea, sicko fr
No kink shaming! Bsdm is a valid way of life! (Or so I wa told)
Openbsdm or Freebsdm though?
DEs from one distro to another can feel different too, idk what it is about Manjaro but it feels so much more responsive than KDE’s own distro. So I think it’s worth trying our different distros even with the same desktop environment
true, like cinnamon is perfect on mint, but for example fedora cinnamon feels very wrong. it’s been a while since i tried it, but it definitely wasn’t as stable, and i had to change a lot of stuff from dconf editor, like for example the location bar in the file manager always defaulted to text mode even if you switched it to link mode
Same, and the OS is Ubuntu for me. I use my computer to get stuff done, not for distrohopping (though that’s also a perfectly valid usecase if you find it fun 👍)
Yeah. I was also at Ubuntu after couple years of distro hopping, until they made a change I didn’t like so I just hopped to Debian and been there past 3 releases
I like gnome on my older gaming desktop. It’s a 2080 ti so when i installed plasma was not super stable on nvidia but I wouldn’t change it, arc menu + dash panel and I’m all set. I prefer kde on the laptop though. All the extra bells and whistles feel more useful on a laptop (no mouse).
That’s funny, because I started using GNOME on my laptop because it seemed to fit the workflow on it better. Eventually I swapped to GNOME on desktop too
KDE ftw
KDE is my favorite, but I’m excited to try Cosmic once it’s a little farther along.
I also love Cinnamon, not because it looks great, or has a ton of customizablity, but because it is so stable. It’s been the best #JustWorks DE in my experience.
Those are the only two I use regularly. Xfce is nice once you get it customized, but it’s kind of a pain to get configured. I don’t have much use for sophisticated tiling, so tiling window managers are just curiosities to me. I’ve played with i3, Sway, Hyprland, and a few others over the years.
I wish I had a use case for them, but alas, all my day to day needs are handled just fine with basic Window snapping, tmux, kitty tabs, and occasionally using a second virtual desktop.
I tried lots of DE’s when distros started switching to GNOME 3.
Now I just run Xfce on everything.
I have only really used xfce. It’s still fun to install Kali on devices but really I use xfce.
Just a user though, not a pro
the first DE I used on Linux was cinnamon and I was like “wow, this is great, everything makes sense to me out of the box”
And then I tried Gnome and was incredibly put off by it, like “why the hell is this over here, this layout is strange to me. Why are all these unconventional features on by default, this is very annoying.”
And then I tried KDE and I was like “wow, this is great and everything makes sense to me out of the box, also there’s all these features and options, I don’t know what they do, but i don’t have to interact with them if I don’t want to.”
I’ve used GNOME and I’ve used KDE. Don’t have a problem with GNOME but KDE is just how I like my desktop experience to act. I am intrigued about Cosmic though.
KDE and GNOME each have their shortcomings. KDE has never been completely stable for me but it’s so much better than it used to be. GNOME is the best at what it’s good at and the worst at everything else. There’s no grey area with gnome.
Cosmic looks super promising. I need to play with it.
Do it. You know you want to…
I just install the Fedora spin of COSMIC. So far, I have to say that I’m impressed by it. It’s pretty lightweight and nimble on low-end hardware while still having just enough customizing to be satisfying. The DE is also pretty easy and simple to use. It also appears to be very stable and tolerant during use.
If you got time, I would tell you to just try it. It has quickly gone from “I’m not very sure about this choice.” to “Hey, I kinda like this.”
I quite like KDE Plasma on my steam deck, but on my desktops I always use XFCE
Ironic given XFCE is supposed to be the light weight one and the steam deck is the portable device.
I like both of them, though. Plenty of customizations in both, not that I tinker around much any more.
I’ve been using KDE since ver 2.something.
I like the idea of tiling window managers.
But I’m old.
I’m set in my ways.
I don’t want to get used to new things.KDE was wild a feral in the early days of plasma. It was heavier than GNOME. It was unstable. It was a nice visual refresh but functionally terrible. It’s really pulled away from that thankfully.
KDE has tiling.
I’ve yet to see anything that compares to kde, and I just don’t understand why so many distros default to gnome!
Never had a problem with XFCE, even doing some weird stuff with metrics in the task bar.
Though I do not tinker like I did when I was younger, nor do I know what Plasma has over XFCE that’s not cosmetic in nature.
Because vanilla kde looks whack
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Red Hat has invested so much in GNOME they will probably never want to hear about changing to KDE Plasma. And Suse will follow Red Hat (which never made sense to me).
SuSE use KDE as the default, them and Manjaro are the only two bigguns that do, really
Not the Suse professional edition that I tested a couple of weeks ago. Only the community editions default to KDE.
Oh :(
Gnome is the most stable DE with all features included, it also has minimal amount of system options to still have all features.
XFCE misses a lot of features, such as printers. KDE has all bells and whistles but is less stable.
KDE is not unstable, even heavily tweaked
Still waiting for XFCE‘s Wayland support. Until then Plasma it is
Booooo Wayland
Get over it. We all have to.
x11 still running strong on my machine
Yeah, that’s fine that’s what you use. I don’t have a pig in this fight. But I’m using Wayland because that’s what Fedora has adopted for a good while now. I do have to say, it’s been a seamless transition. Everything just works. My dual monitor setup, running Kinonite, has never been so easy and trouble free as it is with Wayland. The single monitor box I have with a low power mini desktop with 8Gbit of shared memory, runs Wayland without a hitch.
The thing is, everything has its time under the sun. Whether its X11 or you and me. The guy that has been maintaining X11 doesn’t want to do it anymore. And it appears no one else wants to do it either. So X11 will fade away and Wayland will have it’s time now. And someday Wayland will also be replaced. And people will mourn it’s passing just like X11.
I miss being on XFCE, I’ll be so quick to go back when their wayland transition is done
