• mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
    52·
    5 days ago

    Shadow bans.

    My wife tried to post a bunch on art related communities only to have her account banned without us knowing. She does oil paintings and other such art pieces. You had to have a history before you could post…which no one was willing to tell her. So her account got shadow banned. She gave up after a while on reddit. I dont blame her.

    I hope we never get so petty.

    • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
      4·
      4 days ago

      You mean like how you will never see this comment because I made fun of Rimu and Piefed on memes only posted to lemmy.ml so my account was deleted from piefed.socialcredit instance with the reason “Nasty” having never posted there?

    • Zahille7@lemmy.world
      9·
      5 days ago

      On top of that, bullshit “reputation” rules should never exist here.

      When I first made my reddit account years ago, I remember being so confused when I couldn’t post more than one comment every 10 minutes (absolute bullshit arbitrary restriction), and when I tried to join a community with “too low karma.” “Oops, you can’t do that cause you’re an unpopular nobody and we don’t want you here… Yet.”

      What’s the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don’t have enough “points” on their comments or posts? It’s just such bullshit imo, and restricts everything an online forum should be.

        • Dingaling@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          4 days ago

          It deters humans far more than bots.

          Humans feel unwelcome and are much less likely to stick around.

      • comfy@lemmy.ml
        6·
        5 days ago

        What’s the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don’t have enough “points” on their comments or posts?

        It is a legitimate anti-abuse tactic. Like you’ve mentioned, there are obvious flaws, but it does help prevent brigadiers, advertisers and other bad actors from easily spinning up throwaways to harass or manipulate a community.

        Another way to do this could be account age testing, but this can be defeated by pre-registering empty accounts.

        • MerryJaneDoe@piefed.worldEnglish
          5·
          5 days ago

          It’s a legitimate CONFUSING anti-abuse tactic.

          How is a normal person, who’s never used reddit in the past, supposed to even know how to get karma? Or how the lack of karma is impacting their UX?

          The only way is to game the system, get into a sub that allows shitposts and exists for the sole reason of boosting karma. Which immediately teaches the new person to game the system. Counter-intuitive and counter-productive.

          I think it’s definitely an effective way to keep new users from spamming.

          It chases away new users (or, at the very least, keeps them from active participation). Because of this system, a new Reddit user is more likely to be a doom-scroller with zero participation. And that’s what Reddit wants. Reddit doesn’t need another shitposter. Reddit doesn’t lack for quality content, since it aggregates the bulk of its content from other sites via powerusers. So fuck it if new people participate, as long as they see the advertising sponsors, Reddit is happy.

          • Zak@lemmy.world
            3·
            4 days ago

            A well-run community will either be explicit about its age/karma requirement, or it will manually approve filtered posts from low-reputation accounts. I moderate /r/flashlight and we use the latter approach.

            That takes work though. Some moderators are lazy, and some communities are understaffed. That’s not good, but it most cases it’s not malicious. It has fairly little to do with Reddit the company making money from advertisers.

        • Dingaling@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          4 days ago

          I get that it works, but the side effects are sometimes worse than the disease.

          There are better methods.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    5 days ago

    Bans and heavy moderation of content.

    I’m glad some of the reddit copy communities here like DankMemes died quickly because it was being run by the same loser mods from reddit.

    So far I’ve only been banned from I think maybe 2 communities ever. The only one I remember is one of the NCD communities because the lead mod was a dumb dumb.

    I don’t really care about complaints of specific instance users because unpopular opinions and comments deserve to be seen, otherwise you create an echo chamber.

    So long as there is no brigading, it is much healthier to see everyone’s input.

    Also I hope the r/Chodi crowd never finds lemmy lol.

  • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com
    30·
    5 days ago

    Censorship and manipulation

    Reddit is basically an American psyop machine. The censorship is alarmingly heavy. It bizarre and I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about it because it’s seems so extreme. It’s like a government tool now.

    • Nycifer@piefed.socialEnglish
      10·
      5 days ago

      I think that’s too late now.

      I’ve gotten banned and comments removed because I mentioned a site the moderators didn’t like. So, censorship is alive and well on Lemmy. Also, never forget the time the Lemmy mods/admins threw a bitch fit over celebrating what Luigi had done.

      • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
        11·
        5 days ago

        Censorship is always going to exist to some extent, but Lemmy has the potential to balance it out because there is no central authority. So you could have censorship of different stuff on different servers, but if you take the network as a whole you would still get a diversity of information.

        I remember everybody celebrating Luigi the whole time, I guess some mods and admins were wary of threats of violence being hosted on their servers but overall it’s impossible to criticize Luigi on this platform without getting heavily downvoted, and celebrating him is free upvotes.

        So I feel like you’re being pretty overdramatic and also not really accurate with this comment.

        • MerryJaneDoe@piefed.worldEnglish
          3·
          5 days ago

          it’s impossible to criticize Luigi on this platform without getting heavily downvoted

          He sucks. I much prefer Princess Peach and I’ll fight all of you.