The US has been supporting Russia for a long time now and has also been in bed with China forever.
China is the fourth largest producer of arms providing weapons of murder to war torn regions. They are great because of US not despite it. With their new billionaire class they are looking a lot like a one-party version of the US government.
The EU is no saint as their policies have been linked to massive deaths and their member nations also supply arms used to kill civilians. I am unaware of EU wars killing so many people. This sounds like some pretty bizarre Russian propaganda.
I am not from the EU. Your saying that European soldiers raped Africans? Or are you saying that historically countries from the EU with their imperialistic designs have caused massive suffering? I think the later is common knowledge amongst people who care about these topics.
France almost invaded? So they tried and failed to maintain imperialistic control and Russia has stepped in. Both China and Russia have greatly increased their imperialistic presence in Africa supplying these country with arms that are used to kill civilians.
I am not sure you really supported you statement about EU soldiers causing deaths. I am sure EU nations and the USA will be happy to supply arms to the opposing sides in these countries thus enabling the cycle of destruction by imperialistic powers as they fight for control. Making money off of both sides in the conflict are the arms dealers, they are the real winners.
You’re getting down voted only because most people on this platform are from US and Europe.
While I get what Putin is doing now is indefensible, I have not heard a single explanation as to why Russia has been excluded from NATO and EU. Nor have I understood the western paranoia regarding China. And all I can surmise from this is that US and Europe have continued their exploitation of poor countries through corporations and tried to exclude Russia, China and their allies from the global order.
Both the EU and NATO require unaminous approval of existing members to add new members. Both organisations contain several members that have been under Russian domination within living memory. Given Russia’s frequent aggression towards its neighbours in the post-Soviet period, why would the likes of the Baltic countries trust Russia to be a reliable ally?
Additionally, Russia just straight up does not meet the Copenhagen criteria to join the EU and doesn’t have any measure of the pre-accession integration that every other applicant does
Yeah colonialism and military conquest is only bad when it’s done to you, not when it’s done by you.
And as for the Copenhagen criteria are there any metrics that can be used to determine whether a country is a functioning market economy or politically stable enough, or is it just a set of vague guidelines to keep the membership limited to whoever they like?
Who said anything about colonialism and conquest not being bad? Countries seek to defend themselves. Russia has consistently been a threat to several EU and NATO states, therefore they seek defences against it
is it just a set of vague guidelines to keep the membership limited to whoever they like?
They don’t need guidelines to do that. Any member state can just say no
My comment on colonialism was in response to you mentioning Russia’s historical conquest of Eastern Europe. European countries were busy colonising other parts of the world during the same time so they’re not better than Russia.
That doesn’t mean that I said anything about colonialism being okay. Don’t put words in my mouth, and especially not those words
The countries I mentioned were not, in general, colonial powers (there is an exception here for part of Latvia)
It is still entirely rational behaviour for a colonial power to defend itself against colonisation. Even if they actually were colonial powers then seeking defence against Russia would be a perfectly sensible thing for them to do.
For an outsider, it seems like Russia gets punished for the same crimes that other western nations have committed and continue to commit even today.
Europe and America still continue to support invasions and occupations in the middle east and hence these sanctions seems especially hipocritical.
The US is in an unspoken alliance with Russia and China. It is the new axis of evil and the EU should be very concerned.
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The US has been supporting Russia for a long time now and has also been in bed with China forever.
China is the fourth largest producer of arms providing weapons of murder to war torn regions. They are great because of US not despite it. With their new billionaire class they are looking a lot like a one-party version of the US government.
The EU is no saint as their policies have been linked to massive deaths and their member nations also supply arms used to kill civilians. I am unaware of EU wars killing so many people. This sounds like some pretty bizarre Russian propaganda.
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I am not from the EU. Your saying that European soldiers raped Africans? Or are you saying that historically countries from the EU with their imperialistic designs have caused massive suffering? I think the later is common knowledge amongst people who care about these topics.
France almost invaded? So they tried and failed to maintain imperialistic control and Russia has stepped in. Both China and Russia have greatly increased their imperialistic presence in Africa supplying these country with arms that are used to kill civilians.
I am not sure you really supported you statement about EU soldiers causing deaths. I am sure EU nations and the USA will be happy to supply arms to the opposing sides in these countries thus enabling the cycle of destruction by imperialistic powers as they fight for control. Making money off of both sides in the conflict are the arms dealers, they are the real winners.
You’re getting down voted only because most people on this platform are from US and Europe.
While I get what Putin is doing now is indefensible, I have not heard a single explanation as to why Russia has been excluded from NATO and EU. Nor have I understood the western paranoia regarding China. And all I can surmise from this is that US and Europe have continued their exploitation of poor countries through corporations and tried to exclude Russia, China and their allies from the global order.
Both the EU and NATO require unaminous approval of existing members to add new members. Both organisations contain several members that have been under Russian domination within living memory. Given Russia’s frequent aggression towards its neighbours in the post-Soviet period, why would the likes of the Baltic countries trust Russia to be a reliable ally?
Additionally, Russia just straight up does not meet the Copenhagen criteria to join the EU and doesn’t have any measure of the pre-accession integration that every other applicant does
Yeah colonialism and military conquest is only bad when it’s done to you, not when it’s done by you.
And as for the Copenhagen criteria are there any metrics that can be used to determine whether a country is a functioning market economy or politically stable enough, or is it just a set of vague guidelines to keep the membership limited to whoever they like?
Who said anything about colonialism and conquest not being bad? Countries seek to defend themselves. Russia has consistently been a threat to several EU and NATO states, therefore they seek defences against it
They don’t need guidelines to do that. Any member state can just say no
My comment on colonialism was in response to you mentioning Russia’s historical conquest of Eastern Europe. European countries were busy colonising other parts of the world during the same time so they’re not better than Russia.
That doesn’t mean that I said anything about colonialism being okay. Don’t put words in my mouth, and especially not those words
The countries I mentioned were not, in general, colonial powers (there is an exception here for part of Latvia)
It is still entirely rational behaviour for a colonial power to defend itself against colonisation. Even if they actually were colonial powers then seeking defence against Russia would be a perfectly sensible thing for them to do.
For an outsider, it seems like Russia gets punished for the same crimes that other western nations have committed and continue to commit even today. Europe and America still continue to support invasions and occupations in the middle east and hence these sanctions seems especially hipocritical.