Ah yes because the only way one can influence politics is by directly making the decision.
A national defense council or something like that, I forget the name, made the decision. And the decision only lasts while they’re under martial law.
Oh well since it’s legal and they have to do it due to martial law I guess their hands are twisted. Such unfortunate circumstances really.
And it’s parties with ties to Russia, the country actively invading them. Boo fucking hoo, the invader’s allies are restricted.
I personally think it is a bad thing when habeas corpus gets dissolved. I think it’s a bad thing when you get arrested because the government does not like who you associate with. Even if my government were to think my associates are undesirables. But that’s just me, thinking you should be free to do stuff like talk to people. Or write in Russian. Or speak russian. Or vote. Or at least vote in the regions that aren’t actively invaded, which is part of the whole martial law thing. But that’s just me, thinking people should have their democratic rights protected. I suppose if you’re a fascist you think it’s awesome when ethnic minorities get persecuted, the freedom of assembly gets destroyed, the right to vote, the right to speak out and so many other rights get suppressed, is awesome. Especially since it’s legal to do. It’s not like governments ever lie or anything, it’s not like there’s any reason to doubt their motives, it’s not like the political parties that get targeted are very conveniently the ones in opposition. It’s not like politicians ever try to construct a narrative about what they do.
In fact I remember when Putin invaded he said word for word “I am invading Ukraine. I don’t care what people think. I do this because I am evil, I want to make Russia bigger and I am jealous of zelensky. I order this personally and in spite of the popular will.” That’s how it works after all. These guys can’t lie, so he must’ve said that.
I’ve got my dunks in, so I’m gonna block you now, since it’s obvious you’re too thickheaded to understand what is being told.
Oh well since it’s legal and they have to do it due to martial law I guess their hands are twisted. Such unfortunate circumstances really.
Well, they could just let the imperialist invader’s allies run rampant. Funny how imperialism is somehow only bad when the west does it. If the US was invading somewhere, this community would call for members of parties allied with the US to be executed, but since this is against The West, not by The West, it’s not imperialism, it’s just sparkling war of conquest.
personally think it is a bad thing when habeas corpus gets dissolved. I think it’s a bad thing when you get arrested because the government does not like who you associate with. Even if my government were to think my associates are undesirables. But that’s just me, thinking you should be free to do stuff like talk to people. Or write in Russian. Or speak russian.
Literally none of this is relevant. They’re not arrested. They just can’t act as a political party. Because they have active ties to an actual military invader.
Or at least vote in the regions that aren’t actively invaded, which is part of the whole martial law thing. But that’s just me, thinking people should have their democratic rights protected.
I want to agree, but I’m not sure it’s viable for a few reasons. One, anyone in occupied territory is excluded from the election that way, which means eastern Ukraine, the part with more Russian citizens and speakers, the side people here claim to care so deeply about, would be excluded while the western faction everyone here seems to hate would be left essentially unchecked. Sounds like that’d disenfranchise people, particularly the ones this community professes to support. Two, just because an invader doesn’t control a region doesn’t mean they can’t act in it. I would 100% expect Russia to do their damnedest to interfere as widely as they possibly could because if they can corrupt the election, they can force in someone who will just submit to them.
Now, it’s possible I just haven’t thought of all the possibilities, so I’m open to being convinced there’s a better way. But nobody can ever come up with a way to not disenfranchise big chunks of the population in votes that directly impact them without giving Russia ample opportunity to try to force in who they want in opposition to the will of the people.
I suppose if you’re a fascist you think it’s awesome when ethnic minorities get persecuted, the freedom of assembly gets destroyed, the right to vote, the right to speak out and so many other rights get suppressed, is awesome. Especially since it’s legal to do.
This is just you shoving words in my mouth to construct an easy strawman.
It’s not like governments ever lie or anything, it’s not like there’s any reason to doubt their motives, it’s not like the political parties that get targeted are very conveniently the ones in opposition. It’s not like politicians ever try to construct a narrative about what they do.
It’s wild that this line of thinking never gets turned around on Russia. Nobody in here ever wants to question Russia’s motives. Nobody in here ever wants to question info that makes The West look bad. Nobody wants to consider the fact that no nation gets into a position of such power as Russia through benevolence, only through gross exploitation, and they only manage to perpetuate that position through more gross exploitation.
In fact I remember when Putin invaded he said word for word “I am invading Ukraine. I don’t care what people think. I do this because I am evil, I want to make Russia bigger and I am jealous of zelensky. I order this personally and in spite of the popular will.” That’s how it works after all. These guys can’t lie, so he must’ve said that.
See, you’re so close to actually questioning Russia’s honesty here.
I’ve got my dunks in, so I’m gonna block you now, since it’s obvious you’re too thickheaded to understand what is being told.
Lmao I called out two very obvious lies, you went off on a tangent to find an excuse to shit talk me, and now I’m NoT wOrTh YoUr TiMe. Yeah, I’m not surprised people in here are allergic to facts. They’ve got some decent ideals in here, but god damn do they love to for propaganda against The West.
Ah yes because the only way one can influence politics is by directly making the decision.
Oh well since it’s legal and they have to do it due to martial law I guess their hands are twisted. Such unfortunate circumstances really.
I personally think it is a bad thing when habeas corpus gets dissolved. I think it’s a bad thing when you get arrested because the government does not like who you associate with. Even if my government were to think my associates are undesirables. But that’s just me, thinking you should be free to do stuff like talk to people. Or write in Russian. Or speak russian. Or vote. Or at least vote in the regions that aren’t actively invaded, which is part of the whole martial law thing. But that’s just me, thinking people should have their democratic rights protected. I suppose if you’re a fascist you think it’s awesome when ethnic minorities get persecuted, the freedom of assembly gets destroyed, the right to vote, the right to speak out and so many other rights get suppressed, is awesome. Especially since it’s legal to do. It’s not like governments ever lie or anything, it’s not like there’s any reason to doubt their motives, it’s not like the political parties that get targeted are very conveniently the ones in opposition. It’s not like politicians ever try to construct a narrative about what they do.
In fact I remember when Putin invaded he said word for word “I am invading Ukraine. I don’t care what people think. I do this because I am evil, I want to make Russia bigger and I am jealous of zelensky. I order this personally and in spite of the popular will.” That’s how it works after all. These guys can’t lie, so he must’ve said that.
I’ve got my dunks in, so I’m gonna block you now, since it’s obvious you’re too thickheaded to understand what is being told.
Well, they could just let the imperialist invader’s allies run rampant. Funny how imperialism is somehow only bad when the west does it. If the US was invading somewhere, this community would call for members of parties allied with the US to be executed, but since this is against The West, not by The West, it’s not imperialism, it’s just sparkling war of conquest.
Literally none of this is relevant. They’re not arrested. They just can’t act as a political party. Because they have active ties to an actual military invader.
I want to agree, but I’m not sure it’s viable for a few reasons. One, anyone in occupied territory is excluded from the election that way, which means eastern Ukraine, the part with more Russian citizens and speakers, the side people here claim to care so deeply about, would be excluded while the western faction everyone here seems to hate would be left essentially unchecked. Sounds like that’d disenfranchise people, particularly the ones this community professes to support. Two, just because an invader doesn’t control a region doesn’t mean they can’t act in it. I would 100% expect Russia to do their damnedest to interfere as widely as they possibly could because if they can corrupt the election, they can force in someone who will just submit to them.
Now, it’s possible I just haven’t thought of all the possibilities, so I’m open to being convinced there’s a better way. But nobody can ever come up with a way to not disenfranchise big chunks of the population in votes that directly impact them without giving Russia ample opportunity to try to force in who they want in opposition to the will of the people.
This is just you shoving words in my mouth to construct an easy strawman.
It’s wild that this line of thinking never gets turned around on Russia. Nobody in here ever wants to question Russia’s motives. Nobody in here ever wants to question info that makes The West look bad. Nobody wants to consider the fact that no nation gets into a position of such power as Russia through benevolence, only through gross exploitation, and they only manage to perpetuate that position through more gross exploitation.
See, you’re so close to actually questioning Russia’s honesty here.
Lmao I called out two very obvious lies, you went off on a tangent to find an excuse to shit talk me, and now I’m NoT wOrTh YoUr TiMe. Yeah, I’m not surprised people in here are allergic to facts. They’ve got some decent ideals in here, but god damn do they love to for propaganda against The West.