In my opinion, AI just feels like the logical next step for capitalist exploitation and destruction of culture. Generative AI is (in most cases) just a fancy way for cooperations to steal art on a scale, that hasn’t been possible before. And then they use AI to fill the internet with slop and misinformation and actual artists are getting fired from their jobs, because the company replaces them with an AI, that was trained on their original art. Because of these reasons and some others, it just feels wrong to me, to be using AI in such a manner, when this community should be about inclusion and kindness. Wouldn’t it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner or find a nice existing artwork (where the licence fits, of course)? I would love to hear your thoughts!

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    AI is also bad because it uses basically slave labor; people in 3rd world countries have to look at horrible shit all day to filter it out of the training data. using it endorses this, along with environmental damage, the intellectual property isn’t the only issue with it

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      1 day ago

      That applies to all of capitalism, though, we shouldn’t oppose smartphones just because of the same reasons, but oppose capitalism and imperialism.

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        15 hours ago

        I agree actually! No ethical consumtion and all that, no need to be engaging in easily available AI art usage because “well other things are also unethical”. two wrongs dont make a right

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          12 hours ago

          The point of “no ethical consumption under capitalism” isn’t that we should focus our efforts on being as moral and upright within capitalism as possible, but on actually overthrowing capitalism.

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            7 hours ago

            good plan, while we do that we can avoid using ai slop, especially because it’s so easy. and i absolutely do think we should put in our best efforts to live ethically, within reason ofcourse

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              We can do our best to live ethically, sure, but being ethical does not mean rejecting technology whole-cloth that is simply used to its worst extent and fashion in capitalism. Not every image that exists needs to be painstakingly made in artisinal fashion, like stock images, and at the same time AI art will never be able to replace art as a human expression.

              AI has use cases, and cannot replace art, but it can make some more tedious tasks that don’t need artistry faster and more accessible, like this banner. If I quickly jotted down a sketch of the banner, it would not have any more artistic value just because a human drew it. Photography also has use-cases, but has not eliminated the use of sketching or traditional art forms.

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      Your phone was made with basically slave labour. Your clothes probably too. Chances are even the food you eat employs workers with less than acceptable standard of living. Are you gonna stop using any of those?

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        7 hours ago

        I’m already profiting from unethical labor practices, might as well add to it? That’s not very sound logic ngl

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          Every comment you make is being stored on hundreds of hard drives, I bet you can guess how ethical the entire process of creating those was.

          Better not continue, otherwise you might continue participating in unethical consumption.

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          5 hours ago

          The contribution made is done, its not like every time the image is loaded it gets remade in the AI data centre.