I haven’t met anyone that thinks that there are no problems with existing socialist states. I think you see pushback against common liberal critique of socialist states as a belief that there’s no socialist critique. Either way, “tankies” by the way I have described them are the only ones that have actually gotten change, be they the Cubans, soviets, Chinese, etc.
“Authoritarianism” isn’t objectively measured. In my view, all states can be considered authoritarian, as they all are monopolies on violence. Therefore, what matters more is which class controls that authority. In China, the working classes objectively control the state, so I can see why someone would laugh at claims of “Chinese authoritarianism” as the working classes in China have more freedom than those in the west. I’d still consider it to be “authoritarian,” but a good kind, a working class kind.
I haven’t met anyone that thinks that there are no problems with existing socialist states. I think you see pushback against common liberal critique of socialist states as a belief that there’s no socialist critique. Either way, “tankies” by the way I have described them are the only ones that have actually gotten change, be they the Cubans, soviets, Chinese, etc.
Spend like 5 mins scrolling on this community, the first post I saw said that China was not authoritarian, which is objectively untrue
“Authoritarianism” isn’t objectively measured. In my view, all states can be considered authoritarian, as they all are monopolies on violence. Therefore, what matters more is which class controls that authority. In China, the working classes objectively control the state, so I can see why someone would laugh at claims of “Chinese authoritarianism” as the working classes in China have more freedom than those in the west. I’d still consider it to be “authoritarian,” but a good kind, a working class kind.