• hansolo@lemmy.today
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    5 days ago

    I’m trying to scream from the rooftops that the horse is already out of the barn. We’re PAST this point already with existing technology.

    Let’s say that it’s illegal to own a tiger where you live. You spend a month searching online “how to feed a tiger” “what does a tiger eat” “tiger bedding” and shopping for enclosures. Maybe you even buy tiger enclosure panels and bedding and a blinged-out tiger-sized collar. But never actually buy a tiger. Especially in the most sophisticated surveillance states, that gets close enough that you might get arrested. A crime prediction algorithm would put you as high risk for committing a crime, and if local legislation permits it, you might be charged with a crime you haven’t actually committed. “Conspiracy to endanger wildlife” even though the conspiracy is between you and Google.

    However. you’re telling me that I need to be worried about the far-flung future edge case where after going through a surgical procedure, I spend 5 months training an AI tailored to my brain in particular, and then at that point I think “You know, I think I really want to get a tiger” and would be arrested. You’re going to die on the hill that it’s possible. Sure, maybe one day it will be less invasive and the training on your own brain will take hours instead of months. But for now, we have everything that’s needed to do this to a reasonable enough degree that it’s shocking to me how complacent people are.

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      5 days ago

      You can be concerned about a possible future issue and a current issue at the same time. To dismiss a possible issue because you are already concerned with something else seems silly. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what your getting at.

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        4 days ago

        We’re agreeing to disagree, and that’s ok. I don’t think that this will ever get to the point of the scifi plot device you think it will be. It’s too invasive and requires too much training to be effective.

        So it needs a lot of development and patience and literal brain surgery on willing subjects to test this specific use. Medical uses will follow their own niche, making this a point where clandestine research well have to fork it for their own purpose soon. The overhead is massive here, pardon the pun.

        Meanwhile, an effective method for getting close enough already exists and is used to prosecute people.

        Where is the incentive to spent the years of research to develop this specialized tool further, tailored for the “precrime” purpose? Especially when it’s not just quick and easy, but cheap to do this already? There’s no urgency or need to do anything else. This doesn’t do anything we can’t already do.

        Edit: You’re suggesting something as invasive as the famously unsuccessful MK Ultra program. Meanwhile, using money and black mail remain widely used ways to manipulate someone. The bar is already set high by low-tech means.

        Ooooh, did you listen to the EFF podcast and that’s why you’re all about this?