When it can be assumed that you are being surveilled while expressing negative opinion about the federal government, it’s probably best to go ahead and make the assumption, particularly during the punitive heights of the second Donald Trump administration. New reporting from the Associated Press this weekend detailed some aspects of not only United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) latest anti-immigrant and deportation campaign in New Orleans, but also some interesting insights into how both the federal and state law enforcement agencies involved have been engaged in online surveillance campaigns to track public sentiment toward that crackdown. The story paints a chilling profile of a United States in which dissent against the regime’s campaign of immigrant-targeted cruelty is being carefully compiled, filed away for the potential of future use against American citizens. Not that any of this should be a surprise for any of us.

We have, after all, been warned over and over that organizations like ICE have been wanting to vastly expand their online operations, using the same vastly expanded budget that recently saw them purchase a new $7.3 million fleet of (Canadian made) armored vehicles. The online expansion of ICE, meanwhile, is not just in the name of locating more groups of undocumented immigrants to target, but also to compile sprawling digital enemies lists, creating databases of those who have expressed anti-ICE sentiment. Earlier this year, The Intercept wrote about surveillance contractors sought by ICE, who would be expected to perform algorithm- and AI-aided deep dives into social media users’ post histories, searching for, among other things, “proclivity for violence,” which could include “empathy with a group which has violent tendencies,” among other things. Hope you haven’t expressed “empathy” at any point for any group with “violent tendencies,” right? How does it feel to know that you’d be at the mercy of a freelance surveillance contractor’s mastery of “social and behavioral sciences” and “psychological profiles,” according to ICE’s statement of objectives?

How much of these draconian operations have already been implemented isn’t entirely clear thanks to the shroud of secrecy surrounding the DHS and ICE, but fresh reporting in October noted that ICE was in the process of seeking an additional 30 full-time surveillance contractors to staff two of its “targeting centers”–and yes, that is apparently the official, deeply dystopian term for these facilities. These facilities, in Williston, VT and Santa Ana, CA, would run 24/7 shifts as surveillance analysts “receive tips and incoming cases, research individuals online, and package the results into dossiers that could be used by field offices to plan arrests.” The obvious question: How long until the same resources are being used to target those critical of ICE, or those organizing to impede ICE crackdown efforts, under the guise of “interference with law enforcement operations”? It should also be noted that even if ICE isn’t directly targeting those individuals yet, the unspoken threat of this kind of online surveillance could be intended to have a chilling effect on anti-ICE criticism.

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    So…what?

    Seriously, do they expect us to just be nice to ICE? Like if we ignore everything they will leave us alone? We’ve seen this before. We know how this ends. They are coming for all of us either way. So where is the incentive to be civil to ICE?

    These people are mentally ill if they think they can threaten their way to credibility and respect.

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      These people are mentally ill

      Yes and I don’t say this as a knock on mental illness. I say it because many conservatives are raised to believe that mental illness is either a supernatural force of the devil or a moral failing. I sincerely believe that if many conservatives would just give therapy a trial run, and try to unpack half the shit that they instead insist on holding on to then unleashing upon society, the world would be a much more pleasant and peaceful place.

      However, most will never do that because not going to therapy A. proves they’re totally not crazy otherwise they’d be in therapy, right? and B. Trying to control everyone else, provides them with their own sense of control.

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    I doubt ICE is even aware of Lemmy’s existence. They’re more likely spending their resources on the major normie platforms like Instagram and Twitter.

    Either way, they can swallow my dick & balls and lick my whole asshole clean.

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    For the ICE folks it’s all fun and ghoul games now but the tide will change and they will not like it.

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    Well there’s a good chance I’ll die in a Trump concentration camp, so might as well make the best of it.

    Shoot to kill any intruders that invade your home without a warrant.

    If ICE Gestapo thugs invade your home without a warrant, be a hero. Exercise your second amendment right.

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      Even if you end up being killed take at least one of the henchmen with you. Make them aware that they must choose which of their colleagues is going in first and not going home to their family. If you don’t get the due process the constitution guarantees, one of them will eat lead.

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      This is pretty much my posture regarding ICE and the Trump Regime. If I am destined for one of RFK’s plantations, I intend to kill any ICE bastard who comes for me.

      More importantly, if this cold war goes hot, I will engage with ICE bastards in warfare. I am simply waiting for the Blue States Military to give the order to assemble and uphold the spirit of the Constitution.

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        I got IT skills and ADHD and I thrive in high stress situations. If I can’t take one out myself, I’ll make sure my house never lets any of them leave as well!

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    This is exactly why I have been very vocal about my disapproval. The more people they have to watch the less effectively they can do it.

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    If ICE wants to crack down on people’s 1A rights then they may quickly be finding issues with the 2A folks.

    Well, in some states anyways.

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        Not really… According to Pew Research Approximately 45% of Republicans report owning a gun, compared to about 20% of Democrats. Considering the parties are often roughly equally sized when it comes to these statistical models, that’s not actually a massive difference. There are plenty of armed Democrats, they’re just not vocal about wanting to worship their tools.

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          By your own statistics, and assuming we’re discounting independents, Republicans have over twice the gun owners than democrats, putting them over 2/3 of American gun owners. Of course, that’s assuming they are actually “roughly equally sized”. I’d say over double is in fact a massive difference.

          You’re right, however, that Democratic gun owners tend to he less vocal about the second amendment. There are plenty of Democrats that own 1 or 2 small firearms for self defense that support heavier gun restrictions, for instance.

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      ICE recently lured someone out of their house by claiming to be a construction worker (dressed up I’m guessing) that hit a parked car. 😮‍💨

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      If ICE wants to crack down on people’s 1A rights…

      • …As if those rights even exist anymore outside of a dead letter.
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        Cops seem to be justified in shooting and killing people that just show a gun in their own house after they break down the wrong door(or the right one). 2A rights don’t really exist either.

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          Rights always exist. They come from God or Nature. Our fellow men either respect or ignore those rights. But even ignoring a right or disrespecting it doesn’t make the right just vanish.

          It is not our fellows who give us rights. Nor can our fellows take them away.

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              Rights as a concept I described correctly.

              I have my interests and my dignity. I prosecute my interests. Where did I get all that from? Interests and dignity, what is that if not another way to describe rights? The fact that I will prosecute and defend those regardless of your opinion, what is that? Rights again.

              When we say Nature “gives” we don’t mean it transfers something to us. It’s just a way of saying we have some qualities or properties as beings by way of simply us being what we are. In this case “gives” is not literal.

              As for Gods not being real, I won’t bother arguing for God being real in the interests of time. I purposely included Nature as an alternative to God.

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                If you live in a dictatorship, those rights don’t exist. The rights are earned or agreed upon by a collective. They don’t pre-exist. In an universe without sentient beings, the notion of “rights” is nonsense.

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                  Any universe has at least one sentient being.

                  Rights aren’t circumstantial. How people are treated IS circumstantial. Rights as a concept is not about outcomes. Rights is what is rightly DUE. Rights get violated all the time. That means we tresspass on the minimums that are due. Someone is due privacy, but we spy/surveil them instead. Rights are worth defending. Without defending, rights will get violated. Whether we defend rights or not, they exist as defined. Anyone can just start defending rights at any time, and it doesn’t mean you’re building rights at that time.

                  It’s like counting. Whether you count or not, number 3 exists as a distinct meaning. Rights are like that. Rights exist and have meaning. You can even live a million lifetimes and not know a damn thing about rights in all that time, and this would not negate rights any more than if even every sentient being stopped counting and forgot counting negated numerical concepts. Counting concepts exist, are real, are ever available, and their use can be resumed at any time.

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    Good. I want them to know. I want everyone to know that ICE is a bunch of limp dick nazis.

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    Sup, ICE. You’ve done such a good job emulating your rolemodel from the 1930s/40s with the mustache, I think you’ve all earned a fast-track in that career!! Just skip right to the end and go ahead and feed yourself that bullet! Remember not to aim perpendicular to your throat - that’ll just punch a potentially nonfatal hole: instead aim it up toward your brain!

    You are a traitor not just to your country, but to all of humanity: your legacy will only ever be that of a villainous cautionary tale.

    Best of luck with the go kill yourself! 💖