• This sentence seems to contradict the earlier ones about convertibility.

    Why? You can convert between factor forms, but you can’t add extra ones.

    Well, earlier you wrote:

    The paper can then be put into a safe, thus becoming a 2FA secret

    If the file is stored only on your local disk, it’s 2FA, congratulations!

    … both of which seem to be talking about adding a second password to get 2FA.

    I don’t agree that TOTP is a password you don’t know, because you can’t write it down.

    Sure you can, otpauth URIs and QR codes are a thing. A TOTP code is just a shared secret, the only difference from a non-memorized password is the authentication protocol. (Ignoring the user interface fluff.)

    A collection of TOTP codes is just as knowable as a collection of passwords generated by a password manager, ie, impossible. They are all a possession factor if they are held in an offline password manager.


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