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  • lobsters__ploum@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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    21 days ago

    Neovim had caused me huge data loss at leat 3 times.

    For some reason, my kernel was unstable and would randomly panic (like once a week). This is a bug, OK.

    But every document opened in neovim at the time of the crash would be completely erased. It didn’t happened with Vim. I investigated and found a reported bug about it. basically, Neovim removed a fsync() from the code for performance reasons because they didn’t understood why it was there.

    Well, the reason it was there is to avoid data loss in case like my kernel crash.

    What struck me at the time was not the bug (it happens) but how the developer reacted: they first denied that this was causing data loss. When someone could demonstrate it, they simply refused the patch and refused to investigate this further with no real reason other than stubbornness.

    I was completely surprised by this bad faith and the fact that they didn’t care that neovim could wipe your files.

    But it seems that at least some Neovim people are not to be trusted.

    https://drewdevault.com/weird-guys/

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    • lobsters__jmk@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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      21 days ago

      basically, Neovim removed a fsync() from the code for performance reasons

      No, we (I) disabled the option default, for performance reasons, under the belief that swapfiles (which are always fsync()'d) would cover any potential data loss. And that was since reverted, though the idea is sound and I will revisit it once I have time.

      because they didn’t understood why it was there … they first denied that this was causing data loss

      Your memory is buggy, yet you confidently spread rumors on the internet. Nice. I’m sure you’ll be a valuable addition to Vim’s userbase.

      Here is the full discussion: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/9888

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        • lobsters__tome@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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          21 days ago

          That’s interesting. I’ve enjoyed watching videos in the past that featured Scott Adams, Peter Thiel and Eric Weinstein. Could you elaborate on what sort of person you think that makes me? My intuition tells me it’s some sort of “bad person”, but if you could give precise details rather than leave it as an insinuation I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

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          • lobsters__corbin@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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            21 days ago

            Sure! The intersection of Adams, Thiel, and Weinstein is mostly just misinformed; none of the three of them really know what they’re talking about, whether it’s Adams on the hypnotic powers of Mr. Trump, Thiel on the coming of the Antichrist, or Weinstein on how mainstream physics is wrong. Indeed, there is a sort of irony to their wrongness in that their followers are reading upside-down. For Adams, this is the failure of readers to understand that his self-insert in Dilbert is neither the title character nor the garbageman, but the pointy-haired boss; for Thiel, this is the failure of listeners to understand that he really does hold all of his ridiculous religious beliefs; and for Weinstein, this is the failure of listeners to realize that his physics babble is crankery disconnected from empirical reality.

            In short, I’d say that you have fairly bad taste and, worse, an inability to notice how bad your taste is. I might suggest that you enjoy listening to Great Men, particularly a certain sort of incompetent leader who only succeeds because their followers aren’t interested in analytic or critical thinking.

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            • lobsters__tome@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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              21 days ago

              The intersection of Adams, Thiel, and Weinstein is mostly just misinformed; none of the three of them really know what they’re talking about

              Agree with you about Weinstein. I haven’t got much out of watching anything featuring him, although I initially found his ideas interesting. Thiel has some bizarre ideas, and also many interesting ideas about tech investing. Adams is the one I disagree with you most on: he actually stuck his neck out a couple of times, took severe heat for it, and was ultimately proved right, firstly to say that he thought Trump would win in 2016 and secondly to say he wasn’t the second coming of Hitler like he was made out to be. He also has some very bizarre and unsavory ideas.

              I might suggest that you enjoy listening to Great Men, particularly a certain sort of incompetent leader who only succeeds because their followers aren’t interested in analytic or critical thinking.

              You “might suggest” it? What does that mean? Please either state something plainly or not at all, don’t insinuate. Do you think I’m not interested in analytical or critical thinking, or don’t you?

              But anyhow, there seems to be a gulf between what you’re saying here and what you said previously. You said

              Justin M. Keyes is a cryptofascist. Previously, on Awful, we dumped his Youtube playlists; he favorited Scott Adams, Mel Gibson, Peter Thiel, Eric Weinstein, Curtis Yarvin, and more

              So, do you think I’m a cryptofascist, or is it only the addition of Mel Gibson and Curtis Yarvin to Justin’s playlist that earns Justin that assessment from you?

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              • lobsters__corbin@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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                20 days ago

                Great questions! As Adam West once said, “I think it’s great that we live in a forum where you can ask questions.”

                Yes, I might suggest it, because I thought that we were using the subjunctive mood and speaking hypothetically. I didn’t realize that you were actually a fan of Adams! I would point out that Adams was not a business genius; famously, the Dilberito was a disaster. Predicting that Mr. Trump would win was not impressive, especially when Mr. Trump immediately set up concentration camps along the USA’s southern border, contradicting the idea that Mr. Trump is not an ethnonationalist. So, to the extent that you actually believe Adams, yeah, you do have bad taste. Fortunately, just like how we don’t have to eat Dilberitos, we don’t have to watch old clips of Adams, and I believe that you can make a full recovery with effort.

                I don’t think that you’re a cryptofascist. Indeed, Curtis Yarvin is the most important signifier, as Yarvin literally wants to destroy the USA’s governments and replace them with monarchies; anybody endorsing Yarvin is anti-democratic at a minimum and usually agrees that some sort of ethnonationalism is required to unify the newly-subjugated populace under their new kings. Justin’s got six Yarvin videos favorited, including videos with titles like “How to reboot the US Government” and “Welcome to the Dark Enlightenment”; indeed, Yarvin appears to be Justin’s favorite of the various problematic folks on his playlists.

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                • lobsters__tome@crustaceanson.theshelf.topM
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                  19 days ago

                  Great questions!

                  Thanks! Now I’m curious what about them makes you say they’re great.

                  I might suggest it, because I thought that we were using the subjunctive mood and speaking hypothetically.

                  Oh right, no, when I said “I’ve enjoyed watching videos in the past that featured Scott Adams, Peter Thiel and Eric Weinstein” that’s just what I meant. I wasn’t trying to be hypothetical or to invoke a subjunctive mood.

                  I didn’t realize that you were actually a fan of Adams!

                  I’m not sure I’d describe myself as a “fan” Adams, but I’ve enjoyed a lot of his stuff. I found his books “Reframe Your Brain” and “How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big” particularly interesting.

                  I would point out that Adams was not a business genius; famously, the Dilberito was a disaster.

                  His restaurant was also a disaster. Yet he was wildly successful in the business of being a cartoonist (until a racist outburst got most of his subscriptions cancelled).

                  Predicting that Mr. Trump would win was not impressive

                  Here I have to disagree. He predicted in August 2015, over a year before the election and when a bookmaker was offering 7% odds, that Trump would win. I think it was an insightful prediction.

                  Regardless of how much you dislike the policies Trump put into practice, there was a lot of speculation about other actions he might carry out which he didn’t (such as jailing Clinton). Adams helped me see a new way of interpreting Trump’s words (as far as I know he’s the president whose words are furthest away from objective reality) and I’m grateful to Adams for that.

                  we don’t have to watch old clips of Adams, and I believe that you can make a full recovery with effort

                  Thanks for your interest in my wellbeing. I’m actually pretty confident in my ability to take what’s beneficial to me from what Adams said and reject what is harmful. I’m not sure if everyone has or could cultivate that ability, but it’s useful.

                  I don’t think that you’re a cryptofascist.

                  Thanks for clarifying.

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