Arch is just too much work for me. However, I did run a rolling-release distro for years at work: openSUSE Tumbleweed. To me it feels more mature and polished than Arch. YMMV of course.
There are (or were) Waterfox packages for it.
I updated every single day before starting work. This way the updates are never that big, and you never get left behind. Btrfs and snapper meant if it went wrong you could always just rewind a day.
COVID killed that off; suddenly I was only in the office a few times a year, if that, and the massive multi-gig updates killed my OS.
But that is my recommendation: if rolling, update daily, without fail.
Yeah. I’m not running Arch actually, I’m running Manjaro. I agree installing arch feels too difficult. I think the concept behind it is that you should understand enough about each part of your operating system so as to configure it. It is a refreshing philosophy, particularly in this day and age, and what is really impressive is that if you get stuck at any stage there are people in the Arch forums with enough technical knowledge willing to help.
But yeah as a person with other responsibilities than my OS, I don’t have the time really to understand all of these pieces of software! haha This discussion has given me enough motivation to download the tar.gz and have a look at trying waterfox again. :)
Edit: Now writing from Waterfox. It has a better feel than Firefox I have to say, and it seems much more customisable. Worth a shot! Oh and the update thing I was worried about, it has an auto-updater. I can’t test that it works, but if it does then that’ll be great.
Oh, yes, if you run the tarball and it’s in a directory you own, then it self-updates, which is quite handy.
IKWYM about Arch but what I get in return isn’t enough for me. But I do sometimes run a different DIY distro, Alpine, and in return for my effort I get an OS that’s about 10% of the size of the mainstream glibc distros.
For me an Arch downstream which gates and delays the continuous stream of updates negates the point of running Arch. YMMV.
Of the Arch downstreams I tried, the one I liked was Garuda, which brings better tooling and uses openSUSE’s snapshot and undo tooling to offer a fix for the problems of bad updates.
But, as I think I said, if I wanted a rolling distro, I’d go for Tumbleweed. I am not an Arch fan. I respect it, but its choices are not mine.
Arch is just too much work for me. However, I did run a rolling-release distro for years at work: openSUSE Tumbleweed. To me it feels more mature and polished than Arch. YMMV of course.
There are (or were) Waterfox packages for it.
I updated every single day before starting work. This way the updates are never that big, and you never get left behind. Btrfs and snapper meant if it went wrong you could always just rewind a day.
COVID killed that off; suddenly I was only in the office a few times a year, if that, and the massive multi-gig updates killed my OS.
But that is my recommendation: if rolling, update daily, without fail.
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Yeah. I’m not running Arch actually, I’m running Manjaro. I agree installing arch feels too difficult. I think the concept behind it is that you should understand enough about each part of your operating system so as to configure it. It is a refreshing philosophy, particularly in this day and age, and what is really impressive is that if you get stuck at any stage there are people in the Arch forums with enough technical knowledge willing to help.
But yeah as a person with other responsibilities than my OS, I don’t have the time really to understand all of these pieces of software! haha This discussion has given me enough motivation to download the tar.gz and have a look at trying waterfox again. :)
Edit: Now writing from Waterfox. It has a better feel than Firefox I have to say, and it seems much more customisable. Worth a shot! Oh and the update thing I was worried about, it has an auto-updater. I can’t test that it works, but if it does then that’ll be great.
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Oh, yes, if you run the tarball and it’s in a directory you own, then it self-updates, which is quite handy.
IKWYM about Arch but what I get in return isn’t enough for me. But I do sometimes run a different DIY distro, Alpine, and in return for my effort I get an OS that’s about 10% of the size of the mainstream
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Yes I can’t deal with Arch myself. Manjaro is much easier and works out of the box for me.
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I have tried, and reviewed, Manjaro.
For me an Arch downstream which gates and delays the continuous stream of updates negates the point of running Arch. YMMV.
Of the Arch downstreams I tried, the one I liked was Garuda, which brings better tooling and uses openSUSE’s snapshot and undo tooling to offer a fix for the problems of bad updates.
But, as I think I said, if I wanted a rolling distro, I’d go for Tumbleweed. I am not an Arch fan. I respect it, but its choices are not mine.
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Fair! That’s why we have different distros to choose from!
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