• I have, and it’s indeed almost always terrible. Every minute that I use Teams I curse the developers who made it and the management who approved it, and their lineage for 7 generations, and I wish the earth they’ve stood on salted!

    In life in general I’d like more good stuff and less bad stuff. So a machine that lets most people push out the terrible quality you describe is a bad thing (not a bad thing in the sense “we should make it illegal and stop it”, but in the sense “we should all frown and admonish them, our human peers, sternly for using this shit”).

    It’s like a temu factory in everyone’s pocket. Decidedly not “awesome”.

    God help us all.


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    • Pretty sure that users that persist get results better than Teams. It takes effort and qualification and five layers of management to build something that bad.

      What they get is typically better than the average of what they get otherwise, and fills a gap where they won’t get anything at all otherwise. And importantly, they do not push this out, they use it themselves, if they manage to convince the mad alien daemon to get it into the shape where using this is more comfortable than not using it. Probably more durable than temu stuff, too, would definitely be more durable if we could regulate breaking changes in OSes.

      This is better than the options they realistically had otherwise. If you count it as bad stuff, by that logic your argument also applies for bringing down technological civilisation, which would probably imply gigadeaths, but hey, it would imply less stuff and most of stuff is somewhat bad, so.

      All this is not an argument to oppose anything that goes against hyperscale tech obviously, building non-technical-user-oriented UI around a harness for a medium-size (20B–120B) model is an investment nobody wants to make against the oligopoly, but without oligopoly it will go the way of imagegen UI-wise which would be good enough, and medium-size LLMs are probably good enough as is (and unlike 1T-scale, non-oligopoly actors also create them).


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