First of all, I’m not personally affected since I’m not filtering out the vibecoding tag and although I’m mostly not interested in LLM-authored content, I find the balance on lobste.rs fairly reasonable. I’d like to try and summarize my understanding of the discussion and some options I see.
The vibecoding tag’s name and description was fairly ambiguous and as a result, different groups of users started using it differently:
Some lobste.rs users are fine with LLMs on an abstract level and just want to get rid of low-quality content (me included). The current set of changes seems to cater to this group by treating low-quality slop the same as any other low-quality content (flagging it as spam).
There seems to be a second large group of users who just do not want to see anything connected to LLMs in any way. From the discussion here, I gather it’s not just about filtering low-quality vibecoded projects or LLM-authored writing, but about creating a completely LLM-free safe space. This group (arguably mis)used the vibecoding tag to filter the content since that was the only available option (to the annoyance of the first group) and is now left without an alternative.
I expect there are more groups along the continuum between these two but they do not seem to be as strongly represented in recent discussions. Therefore, it seems reasonable to focus on solving the issue for the second group (at least for now) rather than trying to create a spectrum of tags to cover options in between and complicating the discussion.
I’d be in favor of adding an llms tag that can be used as an LLM trigger warning to mark all content that mentions LLMs in any meaningful way. Naming it llms instead of vibecoding should remove the associated negative stigma and avoid endless discussions about whether something is actually vibecoded. I prefer the name llms over ai-usage and similar since the sentiment seems to be specifically about the current wave of LLM hype, not about AI in the abstract. Users that want to see LLM-related content should ignore the tag and not expect any valuable information out of its presence other than “this post mentions LLMs somewhere”.
On a related note, I’d be in favor of banning all discussion about the LLM purity of a submitted post and debating non-technical context of LLMs on articles that do not themselves engage that topic. Such discussions tend to be extremely repetitive, reductive and off-topic for the original article.
First of all, I’m not personally affected since I’m not filtering out the
vibecodingtag and although I’m mostly not interested in LLM-authored content, I find the balance on lobste.rs fairly reasonable. I’d like to try and summarize my understanding of the discussion and some options I see.The
vibecodingtag’s name and description was fairly ambiguous and as a result, different groups of users started using it differently:Some lobste.rs users are fine with LLMs on an abstract level and just want to get rid of low-quality content (me included). The current set of changes seems to cater to this group by treating low-quality slop the same as any other low-quality content (flagging it as spam).
There seems to be a second large group of users who just do not want to see anything connected to LLMs in any way. From the discussion here, I gather it’s not just about filtering low-quality vibecoded projects or LLM-authored writing, but about creating a completely LLM-free safe space. This group (arguably mis)used the
vibecodingtag to filter the content since that was the only available option (to the annoyance of the first group) and is now left without an alternative.I expect there are more groups along the continuum between these two but they do not seem to be as strongly represented in recent discussions. Therefore, it seems reasonable to focus on solving the issue for the second group (at least for now) rather than trying to create a spectrum of tags to cover options in between and complicating the discussion.
I’d be in favor of adding an
llmstag that can be used as an LLM trigger warning to mark all content that mentions LLMs in any meaningful way. Naming itllmsinstead ofvibecodingshould remove the associated negative stigma and avoid endless discussions about whether something is actually vibecoded. I prefer the namellmsoverai-usageand similar since the sentiment seems to be specifically about the current wave of LLM hype, not about AI in the abstract. Users that want to see LLM-related content should ignore the tag and not expect any valuable information out of its presence other than “this post mentions LLMs somewhere”.On a related note, I’d be in favor of banning all discussion about the LLM purity of a submitted post and debating non-technical context of LLMs on articles that do not themselves engage that topic. Such discussions tend to be extremely repetitive, reductive and off-topic for the original article.
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